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i've been on the sidelines and quiet because frankly i gave my opionions last time this came around. The first time I heard a woman cantor, it made me uncomfortable. BUT THAT WAS MY PROBLEM, because i had only heard men daven. This afternoon I will be MC at a concert given by Cantor Mariana Gindlin and I for one WILL ENJOY EVERY MINUTE. She has the soul and kavana to match any male. I have been to services that she has led and they were more inspiring than some led by male cantors who could not sing! here is the bottom line....if a promoter or group want to hire a woman and a man does not want to go, then by all means STAY HOME. if some male wants to miss out on one of God's gifts then it is his loss. IMHO the issue of kol isha is to deny God's attrubutes as much as denying that there is ONE GOD. it is a needless "fence" put up by needlessly by men who for one reason or another, want to "keep a woman in her place" ....(i can just see the email flames coming!!!!).... if any male has not heard the music of the women on this list, if you want to avoid the issue of kol isha (there are valid rulings that listing to the voice of a woman who is not in the room does not violate kol isha)...i will put the next playlist of only women on my nusachmaven2 station on the web and you can judge for yourself.....! Rabbi Winston Weilheimer Host/OWNER NUSACH INTERNET RADIO NETWORK Nusach, THE ORIGINAL SOUL MUSIC! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/nusach/ _________________________________________________________________ High-speed users?be more efficient online with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1
--- Begin Message ---Here's the deal and here's the dance. As a woman performer I refuse to abide by Kol Isha. I consider it a man-made law and not a G-d made law. When people, particularly men, who have a vested interest in wanting to keep women in their place religiously and culturally start siting law to substantiate their views...well all I can say is there isn't any reason why people should put up with it.
If you can show me that HaShem doesn't want women to sing around men and male children. That HaShem has actually leaned into your ear and told you that for an absolute fact...then I'll listen.
Otherwise, it's just speculation. And I refuse to believe that HaShem would want half of society to not fulfill themselves creatively and personally in any setting. HaShem is all about love NOT narrow-mindedness.
I grew up around Orthodoxy and Chassidism...when there is a woman rabbi and/or cantor in those reigious traditions then I'll actually feel like I want to listen to this type of woman-hating. woman adversation behavior masquerading as religious thought. And address it!
Hey if the men don' like the women's voices WHY DON'T THEY GET UP AND LEAVE???
Darned presumptious to think that a woman OUGHT to!
Hey, there's a reason why some people, myself included stopped addressing the Kol Isha issue on this list...it's not my experience that this issue will be resolved. It hasn't been in the Jewish community, specifically or at large.
Shalom,
Trudi Goodman
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