Re: kol isha in action

[avi finegold <afinegold...>]

--- Dan Jacobs <dan (at) caliginous(dot)com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It's not a custom it's Jewish law (a law that is
> offensive and
> un-necessary), 


youre right about the law part but what makes you
think you have the right to pass judgement for
orthodoxy on relative offensiveness and unnecesariness

that may be the case for you but plenty of people dont
find it to be the case. 
as contentious an issue as it may be, many people
still view it as an integral part of halacha, whether
or not you approve of it. for most people this doesnt
interfere with their everyday life and they dont shove
it into peoples faces, they simply dont go to events
where this might pose a problem for them. now you have
to admit that when someone is organizing an event they
have to take into consideration that they have to
accomodate any people that they are inviting to the
event. im not talking about people they might sell
tickets to, i refer here to people whom theyve
specifically said that they would like to see there as
a guest of honour or something else along those lines.
why cant you see it as a case of some people eat
kosher and therefore when those people go to events
people provide appropriate food solutions for them. in
this case some people cannot allow themselves
halachically to hear a woman singing and therefore a
concession must be made to ensure that no one will
feel uncomfortable.

im not saying that i think its a wonderful or terrible
halacha im just saying that some people (regardless of
their personal viewpoint about the halacha as well),
abide by it and its not right to state that they are
in the wrong just for being orthodox the way they
believe orthodoxy is meant to be. 


avi



so you need to give it a little more
> respect than that.
> The best way to handle a situation like this is to
> educate yourself and others.
> 
> The fact is that there are strong halachik (Jewish
> Legal) arguments
> against Kol Isha, i.e. that listening to a woman's
> voice is not a problem,
> understanding what these are and being able to
> present them when necessary
> would be a more constructive approach then being
> dismissive.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eliezer Kaplan wrote:
> 
> > > Love,
> > >
> > > Rosa Parks
> > >
> >
> > Maybe that's what's gotta happen. Maybe some
> community needs to have it in
> > their face and take it upon themselves to realize
> that in our times living
> > in our world this is ridiculous and to set a
> precedent for changing the
> > custom. And why do I feel so much like that old
> Steve Martin character on
> > Saturday Night Live saying it?
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> 
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