Re: kol isha in action

[Dan Jacobs <dan...>]

Didn't mean to suggest that you were being dismissive, however I think
that to win these arguments within the Orthodox world, we need to be very
careful how we put the case forward.

I totally agree that precedent is important, it is the best was to make
change, as long as we are able to justify it using traditional methods,
otherwise we just create a greater schism between left and right.

Dan

On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eliezer Kaplan wrote:

> Dan-
> I wasn't being dismissive. I was just expressing my own frustration as an
> Orthodox Jew who also happens to be a musician (though admittedly my work is
> in a different arena than most list members). I would personally feel like
> an idiot if I eliminated live female vocals from my world. Do I feel that I
> am being guilty, defiant, or rebellious? No. Should I? I think I'm just
> trying to be reasonable.
> And the ONLY way these things can be changed in the real world is if someone
> sets some new precedents.
>                                     ek
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Jacobs" <dan (at) caliginous(dot)com>
> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:58 PM
> Subject: Re: kol isha in action
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's not a custom it's Jewish law (a law that is offensive and
> > un-necessary), so you need to give it a little more respect than that.
> > The best way to handle a situation like this is to educate yourself and
> others.
> >
> > The fact is that there are strong halachik (Jewish Legal) arguments
> > against Kol Isha, i.e. that listening to a woman's voice is not a problem,
> > understanding what these are and being able to present them when necessary
> > would be a more constructive approach then being dismissive.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eliezer Kaplan wrote:
> >
> > > > Love,
> > > >
> > > > Rosa Parks
> > > >
> > >
> > > Maybe that's what's gotta happen. Maybe some community needs to have it
> in
> > > their face and take it upon themselves to realize that in our times
> living
> > > in our world this is ridiculous and to set a precedent for changing the
> > > custom. And why do I feel so much like that old Steve Martin character
> on
> > > Saturday Night Live saying it?
> > >
> > >                             EK
> > >
> > > www.zelwel.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >  - Dan Jacobs
> >  - 07956 246 659
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

 - Dan Jacobs
 - 07956 246 659

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