Re: Kol Isha/Miriam's Song/Wagner

[Alex Lubet <lubet001...>]

At 09:46 AM 2/24/2003 -0800, you wrote:

>--- Alex Lubet <lubet001 (at) umn(dot)edu> wrote:
> > I find the arguments of Marc Weiner, Paul Rose, and
> > Gottfried Wagner very
> > convincing as regards the depth of anti-Semitic
> > stereotypes in many of the
> > Wagner operas,
>
>can someone point me to some good printed sources for
>some of this work? Magee seems to dismiss any of these
>folks out of hand, and id like to form a more educated
>opinion.
>
>i think regardless of the antisemitic content within
>the actual operas there is still room for the debate
>to exist.
>
>
>Of course.  There are evil geniuses and some of them are artists.  When 
>one thinks about it, Wagner's music is seductive and seduction is not 
>necessarily a quality we associate with nice people.  I own the Glenn 
>Gould transcriptions myself and there was a paper given on that 
>subject.  Many composers we know and love, including many who are Jewish 
>(or Christian converts of Jewish heritage, like Mahler).  It's one of the 
>great sadnesses of Western culture.


BTW, there were plenty of other great artists who were anti-Semites, though 
few as ideological/politically active as Wagner.  One more reason to 
wrestle with the question of why there needs to be evil in the world.

Thanks for responding.




>




>I'd start with Marc Weiner's Richard Wagner and the Anti-Semitic 
>Imagination.  Plan on reading it for several weeks.  There's no jargon, 
>but it's really deep.
>
>
>
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