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Re: kol isha



I would choose to attend a seder that includes BOTH women and men. Simply because my ancestors were women and men and Pesach is a celebration of my ancestory.

As  for Kol Isha, I still say that it is not something that I want to help perpetuate. I know all of the arguments for and against. Frankly, I view it as more a sociological phenomenon and Wolf is right as far as I am concerned. It is just a justification for keeping women in their place. Not all religious traditions are spiritually based. And it's time to call Kol Isha what it is: a mysogynist phenomenon of days gone by. If people are comfortable with it. Well, their choice. Some women I know still wear sheitels.

Love and Knishes,

Trudi the G

>From: Ari Davidow
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant
>Subject: Re: kol isha
>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:25:32 -0500
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>At 11:10 PM 2/19/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >just curious.....would the women out there who are offended by the kol isha
> >issue, also choose NOT to attend an event where men were excluded, like the
> >women's seder?
>
>It's not necessarily an equivalent action, Winston. I can't speak to the specifics within the Orthodox community, but certainly within the feminist movement, all-women events are, in part, a reaction to a society that is male-dominant and often woman-exclusionary (hopefully, less so today, than 30 years ago, but certainly not to such a degree that the issues have become irrelevant), nor are such events as common, or as large, or as economically significant as the men-only events.
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>ari
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