Re: creepy: Hatikvah

[Trudi Goodman <goobietheg...>]

  the piece is Ma Vlast. the composer escapes my mind right now. Definitely 
Russian.
  trudi the g


>From: Lori Cahan-Simon <L_Cahan (at) staff(dot)chuh(dot)org>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: creepy: Hatikvah
>Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:22:01 -0500
>
>
>
>robert wiener wrote:
>
> > Simon, I am not clear as to when the tune used today was introduced as a
> > setting for the text, but Nulman says that "the earliest printed
> > version of the melody of "Hatikvah" appeared in 1895."
>
>I remember hearing a "classical" piece that sounded an awful lot like
>"Hatikvah"  many years ago.  Could it have been Khatchaturian?  Someone
>Eastern European.  If I recall correctly, it was in 3/4 time with the
>rhythm being 1/4 note, 1/2 note for most of it.
>
>Lorele
>
> >
> >
> > I recall hearing a different tune used by the Zamir Chorale of Boston
> > and Josh Jacobson gave some of this history which is what prompted me
> > to look it up.  I don't believe that that version has been recorded,
> > although it may have been (and I might even have it on my shelves).
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Klezcorner (at) aol(dot)com <Klezcorner (at) aol(dot)com>
> > To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 9:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: creepy: Hatikvah
> >
> > >
> > >In a message dated 12/28/99 5:35:02 PM, wiener (at) mindspring(dot)com 
> > >writes:
> > >
> > ><< The nine-stanza poem,
> > >
> > >originally called 'Tikvatenu' (Our Hope), [and] was written in 1878
> > by
> > >
> > >the itinerant Hebrew poet Naphtali Herz Imber (1856-1909)."   I guess
> > >
> > >that Hitler can't get "credit" for that. >>
> > >
> > >Got You Bob,
> > > I knew you'd be watching, so I specifically said "Hatikvah the
> > Anthem" (of
> > >Israel) not the poem. Unfortunately, Hitler does get credit, the
> > world
> > >"guilt" of the Holocaust was a primary mover in creating the Jewish
> > State.
> > >Simon
> > >
> > >----------------------
> > jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org ---------------------+
> > >