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Re: Kol Isha/Trudi's Yiddish




Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky wrote:

> OK, let's make it all proper Yiddish.
>
> <take nokh amol>
> <dayn velt iz di kleyner velt> <mayn is gants andersh ikh denk, ober zis>
>
>
> <take nokh amol>
> <dayn velt iz a kleyne velt.  Mayn iz, meyn ikh, gants andersh, ober zis.>

Depends on if Trudi meant " smallER world"   or just "world".

> Thank God we got rid of all that previous pure German.

I concede that "denk ikh" is <daytshmerish> but that does not make it improper
Yiddish, only regional vernacular.   It is true that <tsu denken> implies a
more active cogitation than Trudi's sentence necessitates so, your substitution
of <meyn ikh> is good.

I maintain that the word order is somewhat  flexible, although I should have
inserted commas, too.

Picky, picky.

Wolf

>
>
> Reyzl
>
> ----------
> From:  Kame'a Media [SMTP:media (at) kamea(dot)com]
> Sent:  Friday, September 24, 1999 2:34 PM
> To:  World music from a Jewish slant
> Subject:  Re: Kol Isha
>
> Right on, Shira!
>
> I can begin to understand why someone with your mindset left copyright law.
> Great post.  People just tend to shy away from real issues.
> I am shocked that an issue pertaining to social justice, not to mention the
> aspirations and livelihoods of many on this list (who struggle with this
> stuff every day)  would be perceived as a "rat hole" and not an opportunity
> to effect change.
>
> You made your point very well.
>
> Steve --
> To me, a musical group was always an "Us-against-the-world" proposition.
> All for one and one for all, -- in all sincerity.
> I would feel disloyal doing what you do under these circumstances.
> It's like: "Okay, we won't bring the Black guy".
> Your position perpetuates, in my view, a social injustice and panders to
> dangerous regressive forces that harm us all.  The intermarriage and
> assimilation issue is a distraction.
>
> Then again, if it's only business -- There was an early rock and roll group,
> the Hollywood Argyles. They had  white, Black and Latino line-ups.
>
> Jewish life and living are too precious to be dominated by the monolithic
> arcane views
> of a handful of MEN ONLY.
>
> I believe Judaism is an evolving civilization.
> Jewish institutions are another matter.
>
> We can only hope that through protracted peace and the healing of
> survivor families, the uprooted, embattled and impoverished,
> we can truly evolve and leave the tired obscure outlooks of mere mortal
> men behind.  Infallibility is not a Jewish concept as applied to human
> beings.
>
> Let's play Halakhic Hot Seat:
>
> Let's say there is a singing Jewish hermaphrodite out there.
> Can  orthodox men listen to the verses, but not the choruses?
>
> Trudi Goodman wrote:
>
> > ayn take mol..
> > daynes veld iz die kleynzeker veld, maynes iz gantze sondern ish denk aber
> > zis.
>
> Guerilla Yiddish Lesson #208
> <take nokh amol>
> <dayn velt iz di kleyner velt> <mayn is gants andersh ikh denk, ober zis>
>
> Wolf
>
> >
> >
>



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