Re: Kol Isha - Just the Facts, please!

[Sylvia Schildt <creativa...>]

One other note


At a Mizrahi/Ashkenazi mixed wedding I attended, all the Iranian ladies,
young and old., burst into wild ullulation at periods during and following
the ceremony -- is ullulation exempt from KI??? Judith might have some
insights on this little cutie.

Sylvia Schildt
Baltimore, Maryland


on 1/23/04 12:56 PM, lenka lichtenberg at lenkal (at) sympatico(dot)ca wrote:

...as well as orthodox Sephardic shuls, absolutely, at least in Canada. Zero
female involvement is a given, from doing an aliyah to singing/chanting
anything whatsoever, in or out of service. i suppose that comes with the
term "orthodox". 
lenka
 
www.lenkalichtenberg.com <http://www.lenkalichtenberg.com>
I'd think you can assume it as a given with almost any Ashkenazic, orthodox
shul in the United States ........
...
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Jacobowitz" <alexbjacobowitz (at) yahoo(dot)com>
To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Kol Isha - Just the Facts, please!


> --- Sam Weiss <SamWeiss (at) bellatlantic(dot)net> wrote:
> > At 01:49 AM 1/23/04, Yoel Epstein wrote:
> > >Perhaps some of you would like to compile a list of
> > specific gigs that
> > >were
> > >refused or cancelled because a female singer
> > participated in the
> > >band.  Then
> > >we might have a starting point for actually doing
> > something about this.
> >
> > Such a list would not even scratch the surface,
> > since the assumption of Kol
> > Isha very often precludes female soloists and bands
> > with a female singer
> > from even being considered at all.
>
> Au contraire, it WOULD scratch the surface -
> at least insofar as this list is concerned.
> As in other political opinions, there would
> most likely be "right", "centrist" and "left"
> versions of KI - and its implementation. If
> any gig were to be refused or cancelled for
> KI reasons, it would be most illustrative to
> see whether the sponsors give that as the
> reason, or whether they hide behind some kind
> of subterfuge. And since on this list
> we´ve only heard from the femails in this case, I
> wouldn´t mind hearing the other side´s view - those
> who are involved in the decision-making process.
>
> Bring it on!
>
> Alex
>
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