Re: Kol Isha - Just the Facts, please!

[Eliezer Kaplan <zelwel...>]

My own shul might be a little more liberal than you describe in that we allow 
women to give divrei Torah- in particular, at the kiddush. And there are women 
on our board. But we're sort of the oddballs.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: lenka lichtenberg 
  To: World music from a Jewish slant 
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:56 AM
  Subject: Re: Kol Isha - Just the Facts, please!


  ...as well as orthodox Sephardic shuls, absolutely, at least in Canada. Zero 
female involvement is a given, from doing an aliyah to singing/chanting 
anything whatsoever, in or out of service. i suppose that comes with the term 
"orthodox". 
  lenka

  www.lenkalichtenberg.com
    I'd think you can assume it as a given with almost any Ashkenazic, orthodox
    shul in the United States ........
    ...


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Alex Jacobowitz" <alexbjacobowitz (at) yahoo(dot)com>
    To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
    Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:47 AM
    Subject: Re: Kol Isha - Just the Facts, please!


    > --- Sam Weiss <SamWeiss (at) bellatlantic(dot)net> wrote:
    > > At 01:49 AM 1/23/04, Yoel Epstein wrote:
    > > >Perhaps some of you would like to compile a list of
    > > specific gigs that
    > > >were
    > > >refused or cancelled because a female singer
    > > participated in the
    > > >band.  Then
    > > >we might have a starting point for actually doing
    > > something about this.
    > >
    > > Such a list would not even scratch the surface,
    > > since the assumption of Kol
    > > Isha very often precludes female soloists and bands
    > > with a female singer
    > > from even being considered at all.
    >
    > Au contraire, it WOULD scratch the surface -
    > at least insofar as this list is concerned.
    > As in other political opinions, there would
    > most likely be "right", "centrist" and "left"
    > versions of KI - and its implementation. If
    > any gig were to be refused or cancelled for
    > KI reasons, it would be most illustrative to
    > see whether the sponsors give that as the
    > reason, or whether they hide behind some kind
    > of subterfuge. And since on this list
    > we´ve only heard from the femails in this case, I
    > wouldn´t mind hearing the other side´s view - those
    > who are involved in the decision-making process.
    >
    > Bring it on!
    >
    > Alex
    >
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