Re: Kol Isha

[BlackMonk <BlackMonk...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Jacobowitz" <alexbjacobowitz (at) yahoo(dot)com>
To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: Kol Isha


> B"H Munich
>
> halt! Too many of you Jews are commenting on
> your fellow Jews as if they  were Nazis, Taliban,
> and the Los  Angeles police roled into one!
> Doesn´t anybody here understand Judaism?
> Gosh!
>
> > You're on the list, too. You have the opportunity to
> > educate everyone as to
> > how Orthodox Jews forbidding women to sing in the
> > presence of men is NOT
> > like fundamentalist Muslims requiring women to wear
> > a burqua.
>
> Awright, folks, please listen up!
> 1) I can´t speak for fundamentalist Muslims, but from
> what I understand it, they CAN and DO command their
> women what to wear. If the WOMAN violates the command,
> she can be punished, even in public.
> The woman is compelled to comply. No free choice.
>
> 2) Kol Isha is NOT a command for the woman, but
> for the MAN, who is to EXCUSE himself from the
> presence of a woman singing! The woman MAY sing, and
> as much as she likes! However, if you COMPEL the
> man to listen to the woman singing, even punish
> him (derision, or exclusion, for instance), then
> you have effectively FORCED him to listen!
> And if you´re doing that AGAINST his will, then
> you´ve taken over the role of the Taliban!
>
> GET IT! FREE CHOICE - JUDAISM - FREE CHOICE!
> THE WOMAN HAS THE RIGHT TO SING!
> THE MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO LEAVE!
>
> You know, maybe a year or two mandatory study
> in a yeshiva wouldn´t be bad for some of
> the people who pretend to know what they´re talking
> about!
>

You mean, like someone who'd interject a situation where a man is forced to
listen to a woman singing, even though NO situation like that were ever
mentioned in this thread. However, situations where the woman WAS prevented
from singing WERE mentioned in this thread.

GET IT?

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