RE: Kol Isha becomes a reality

[Lee Friedman <apikoyros...>]

I'm not a posek, but, until a good one arrives...
honoring one's contracts is also a Jewish value
that should not be compromised. (Citations for
this opinion can be found.)

And commitments between fellow human beings
(you should pardon the expression, beyn odom
l'havero) take precedence over abstract obligations
to God. At least, they will by next Yom Kippur.

The brother in law didn't have to listen if he felt
he couldn't. The concert could have been cancelled
if they felt in good conscience they couldn't have
it go on, BUT they have a halakhic obligation (as
well as a civil obligation and, perhaps, civil
liability for sex discrimination) to pay the contracted
musician for the specified performance.

Lee

------Original Message------
From: "Daniel B. Schwartz" <SCHWARTZESQ (at) worldnet(dot)att(dot)net>
To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
Sent: March 27, 2001 3:30:03 PM GMT
Subject: RE: Kol Isha becomes a reality


I was referring to the compromise suggested on the part of the Orthodox
husband, the cause of the contract cancellation.  He would not be
allowed to
compromise his values simply in light of a contract with an entertainer.

DANIEL B. SCHWARTZ, ESQ. SPECIALIZING IN ALL ASPECTS
OF MATRIMONIAL, FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL LITIGATION FOR
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
[mailto:owner-jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org]On Behalf Of Eliezer Kaplan
Sent: Mon, March 26, 2001 6:57 PM
To: World music from a Jewish slant
Subject: Re: Kol Isha becomes a reality


Daniel-
It's not compromise- it's ethical behavior! (At the very least, I would
agree with Winston)- if you've promised a person work and then pull the
carpet out from under them, then you better pay them!
EK

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel B. Schwartz
To: World music from a Jewish slant
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: Kol Isha becomes a reality


Halacha does not really allow for that type of compromise.  But once
there is a valid contract, it can be enforced.

DANIEL B. SCHWARTZ, ESQ. SPECIALIZING IN ALL ASPECTS
OF MATRIMONIAL, FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL LITIGATION FOR
FURTHER INFORMATION INQUIRE AT:
HTTP://HOME.ATT.NET/~schwartzesq/index.html



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
[mailto:owner-jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org]On Behalf Of Eliezer Kaplan
Sent: Sun, March 25, 2001 12:28 PM
To: World music from a Jewish slant
Subject: Re: Kol Isha becomes a reality


I think any 'Orthodox' person that would knowingly cause you loss of
parnasah by cancelling a performance is a person who had better do a bit
of
soul searching! There's something very hypocritical about all that (in
light
of the famous story about Hillel- the one about love thy neighbor as
thyself- the rest is commentary).
EK



----- Original Message -----
From: shirona
To: World music from a Jewish slant
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: Kol Isha becomes a reality


I have to share this dose of reality...  it finally happened to me.

I was asked to organize and perform at a private party, an Israeli
style Kumzits, with a concert-like presentation of old Israeli ballads,
a
sing-along, and a keyboard player to accompany me and play throughout
the
evening.  It was to be at an expensive restaurant, an up-scale event
with
good money.  Three daughters were organizing this for their mother's
70th
birthday.

Everything was confirmed, dates, fees, program outline... and then
it happened.  One of the sisters is married to an orthodox man.  Of
course
no one thought of this before - but the orthodox man would HAVE to
perform
the obligatory Kol Isha boycott... Never mind that 98% of the people at
the
party are non-orthodox - it was a matter of Shlom-bayit, and I was
cancelled...   So there it is, alive and well in the year 2001.   The
price?
On top of the ideological outrage, it was a serious loss of "Parnasa"
for
me, and I depend on it for a living.

Without appropriate words for closing,

Shirona
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