Re[2]: Holiday Music

[richard_wolpoe <richard_wolpoe...>]

Reyzl's point is to give us a a bit of a rise,  hence her name. <smile>

Rich W.  


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Subject: Re: Holiday Music 
Author:  <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org> at Tcpgate
Date:    12/16/98 4:20 PM


Reyzl,

I've really lost sight of your point.

I and others have been saying that there's lots of recorded Jewish 
music out there for all times of the year, so let's make Jewish music.

And your point is what?  That Shabbat comes every week so that Shabbat 
recordings doesn't count as Jewish music or deserve to be sold?  Or is 
it just that it offends you to call it holiday music?  If your concern 
is that record stores shouldn't put music for the Sabbath in a Holiday 
Music section, you should know that in Manhattan the Jewish Music that 
gets put there is recordings by the Klezmatics and by Itzhak Perlman. 
Are they better classified Jewish Holiday Music than Shabbes zmiros? 
Your concern for the Tower vendor's plight simply baffles me.

Is your point really that there isn't enough Jewish holiday music to 
be called a category?  That's not true.  Just read the posts from this 
past day or ask my wife who sighs with every CD, cassette, and LP I 
buy.  But even if it were true, so what?  What's your point?

Chag Sameach to everyone on the 4th night, 
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky <reyzl (at) flash(dot)net>
To: World music from a Jewish slant. <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org> 
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 3:51 PM
Subject: RE: Holiday Music


There are many Shabes song recordings, but they are not holiday 
records and you know it.  Just about all Jewish songs can be suitable 
for Friday night or Shabes afternoon or shaleshudes, so let's not go 
even more overboard.


Reyzl


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From:  robert wiener[SMTP:wiener (at) mindspring(dot)com] 
Sent:  Wednesday, December 16, 1998 9:42 AM
To:  World music from a Jewish slant. 
Subject:  Re: Holiday Music

And we haven't even mentioned music for Shabbat, certain a holy day. 
There
are countless recordings, even if we exclude cantorial music.  In 
addition
to the many collections of Jewish holiday music.

As a former member of "BJ" -- B'nai Jeshurun, a Manhattan synagogue 
that
regularly attracts over 2,000 on an Friday night -- I can vouch for 
the
repeated power of Jewish music (beyond the hora, although there 
usually is
dancing) to affect more than just the few of us.

Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Fertig <fertig (at) brandeis(dot)edu>
To: World music from a Jewish slant. <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org> 
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Holiday Music


>Reyzl:
>I don't know whether it counts as a category or not... but there are 
(or
>were on LP) holiday recordings specifically for Purim and other 
holidays
>from Hed Artzi.  I have some Purim recordings at home and will 
recheck this
>and email numbers off list if you're interested. Check their catalog. 
>Judy.
>
>>Other than Passover and Yomim Noraim, Jews neither produce and nor 
seek to
>buy records for specific holidays.   And Passover and Yomim Noraim 
are each
>too tiny a category to count.   Most of them probably get grouped as 
>"cantorial".  Because of Christmas, assimilated Jews look to buy 
holiday
>records for the season, or else Jews and non-Jews seek to buy some 
>"holiday" appropriate gift to give or play where they need it for a 
variety
>of reasons.   So record producers create these records for people 
looking
>for season-related material.   But it's a relatively small category. 
>>
>>There are no Shavuos, Purim, or sukkos records, as far as I know. 
If you
>know of any, I would love to know about them.   So would a whole 
bunch of
>Jewish educators.   They usually settle for a song or two.  You may 
find
>one or two records, if that many, but that doesn't count as a 
category, so
>the "holiday" category doesn't apply too well.  Hanukah records are 
>produced only for Jewish children as far as I know.  Never seen one 
not for
>children.  Someone please correct me if I am wrong.  Jewish record 
>producers want to put out their material early in December, but they 
don't
>expect their clients to look only for Hanukah music, because they 
know that
>their clients are looking for anything distinctly Jewish in the 
Christmas
>season.   Any Jewish record will serve as an appropriate gift for 
Khanukah.
>>
>