Re: Kol Isha/Miriam's Song

[Lori Cahan-Simon <l_cahan...>]

Thank you, once again, Ari, for your good sense and good advice.  As the 
instigator of this year's KI debate, I'd like to say that I find it 
fascinating that this subject gets more responses per day than any other 
that is ever posted about.  It has also not changed a single 
participant's view on the subject, as far as I can tell, but what it 
does is raise consciousness about it, provide support and sometimes some 
very good advice on how to deal with it in the future, and to prepare 
onesself for the inevitability of its happening yet again.

I have spoken with my rabbi about this issue and he and I are going to 
sit down and have a talk about what I can do about it.  

The offending gig was last night, and I have yet to hear any reports 
about it, but will let you know if there was anything interesting.  I am 
doubting there was or I assume I would have heard about it.  

I assure you I am not done with this issue, and neither are many from 
this list, and I am, unfortunately, sure it will come up again on this 
list.  As Ari says, if it does and you don't care to talk about it just 
don't open the mail, just as the men who would have been offended by my 
singing should have done what they needed to in order to avoid my singing.

I am grateful for this community, and that we can still hold meaningful 
and important discussions even though we often disagree.

That said, anybody care to respond to my postings about Molly Picon or 
the request for song lyrics?

mit frayndshaft,
Lorele


Ari Davidow wrote:

>At 11:35 AM 2/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
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>>... It appears to me
>>that at this juncture, the 2003 quarterly Kol Isha debate, while having some
>>value, has now ceased to have any purpose, other than a few individuals
>>debating their personal views, from which they will not deviate.
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>I can share your hope that those who have said what they have to say a few 
>times, will feel comfortable moving on. But would rather point out that the 
>best way to move the list as whole onto new discussion is to provide new 
>discussion, and not to respond further. To paraphrase Travis T. Hipp, if you 
>don't like the current discussion, start a juicy new one ;-).
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>I will also encourage those who have moved onto issues of halacha (Jewish law) 
>(or opposition to same) to move those discussions to private e-mail or to 
>lists focused on those subjects.
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>But I also want to avoid telling people for whom this matters that they have 
>had their say and it is now time to move on. It is, rather, the right of those 
>who have finished their say and want to move on, to do so. I'd like to avoid 
>the anti-free speech idea that insists that once one person feels it is time 
>to move on, everyone should simultaneously reach the same conclusion. 
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>No one is forced to open e-mail on subjects in which they have no interest, or 
>no further interest. I encourage all list participants to take advantage of 
>that e-mail feature as works for them.
>
>ari
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>Ari Davidow
>ari (at) ivritype(dot)com
>list owner, jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>the klezmer shack: http://www.klezmershack.com/
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