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Re: A nice surprise?
- From: Robert Cohen <rlcm17...>
- Subject: Re: A nice surprise?
- Date: Sun 29 Apr 2001 23.03 (GMT)
>For me it was a spiritual and emotional experience - seeing "frum" women
>taking an active and awe inspiring roll in the service, as equal to men and
>equal before G-d. (I was watching the men during the portions where women
>were leading, and they seemed very comfortable. The husbands whose wives
>were leading looked very proud. It was all very natural...
I have much respect and regard for Moshe Adler and am very interested to
hear that he's overseeing a traditional but egalitarian service. I would
automatically incline to assume that he's coming from a thoughtful and
serious place in doing so.
Having said that: Between the lines--or, actually, *in* the lines--of this
posting are flashing yellow lights indicating some of the potential
problems, perhaps, of such services. *Why,* for example, was our
correspondent "watching the men during the portions where women were
leading"--or at any time, for that matter? One of the reasons why many
women that I've talked to about this, or whose thoughts I've read about from
other's writing and interviewing, *like* a separate space from men is so
they *won't* be watched during davening--and I can't imagine that the men
being watched here benefited from being watched--"spiritually and
emotionally," as our correspondent puts it. Nor do I imagine that the women
at the service would have experienced a deeper kavannah in their davening if
*they* were being watched.
It's nice that the husbands of women leading the service "looked very
proud"--though, again, nobody should have been noticing--but that suggests,
again, *less* focus and intensity in prayer (or contemplation, study, etc.),
which is what a synagogue service should be about. This service comes off,
at least in this account, as more of a show-and-tell entertainment
production--that's where one is appropriately "proud" of one's
spouse's/children's/friend's home run, aria, etc. Parents, etc., can't help
but kvell over their children's bar/bat mitzvah--uncles too. But that
should be the exception--and, indeed, in the synagogues, in my experience,
where bar mitzvah is taken maximally seriously as a religious coming of age
and not a pageant-with-party, even parents' kvelling is expressed in a very
different way from at Little League.
>Later I spent a good half hour talking with the Rabbi, Moshe
>Adler. We should all be blessed with such Rabbis - open minded, spiritual,
>a man who is in touch with his own conscience - and has the guts to act on
>his beliefs. Even in the face of a hostile "peer environment".
I have, as I said, nothing but regard for Moshe Adler. But Shirona is,
sadly, again so wrapped up in self-righteousness that she imagines that only
those who agree with her are "in touch with [their] own conscience" or
"[have] the guts to act on [their] beliefs." It's a supremely arrogant and
ugly notion--but Shirona seems incapable of recognizing that a rabbi who
*doesn't* choose to go in this--i.e., her preferred--direction may be just
as in touch with his conscience--and perhaps showing even more guts, since
he has to defy, among other things, the limitless self-righteousness of some
(but not all) Jewish (and non-Jewish, for that matter) feminists.
I admire Rabbi Adler, among other reasons, because, in my limited
experience, he *doesn't* convey this kind of arrogant
self-righteousness--but, rather, an earnest humility (one of the
requirements of which is the knowledge and belief that one may be wrong) in
seeking to hear what G*d wants of him at any given moment and to serve G*d
as best he can.
It's an example worth emulating.
--Robert Cohen
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- Re: A nice surprise?,
Robert Cohen