Mail Archive sponsored by
Chazzanut Online
jewish-music
Re: FW: RUN-DMC?
- From: Rmsarig <Rmsarig...>
- Subject: Re: FW: RUN-DMC?
- Date: Sun 11 Jul 1999 22.12 (GMT)
As someone very interested in Jewish culture and popular culture, and who
writes about pop music (very often hip-hop), I think I should lend some
perspective to this thread. I think I may one of the few people on the list
who knows more than a little about rap, so...
> I also recently read that a former Israeli, observant
> Jew has managed Public Enemy all these years...
Lyor Cohen is the head of Def Jam, one of the earliest and most influential
rap record labels. The label was once independent, and released the early
albums of Public Enemy, LL Cool J, and many others, including the (Jewish)
Beastie Boys. Cohen is not the manager of any of these groups. Now that Def
Jam is owned by Universal Music Group (Bronfman's company), Cohen serves an
executive in the larger corporation, and continues to play an important role
in the release of rap albums.
> The man who is the main force behind the business and success of Rap
> and Hip hop music, including Rap's violence, misogyny, anti-Semitism
> (Public Enemy) is Lyor Cohen, born to Israeli observant Moroccan
> parents in America, and the great grandson of Israeli Rabbi Daniel
> Sirkus, a signer of Israel's Delaration of Independence. You can read
Cohen is by no means the main force behind hip-hop music. He is an important
record executive, but has no role in writing rap lyrics and is not even
primarily responsible for rap's marketing success (I'd credit that to many
people and, in large part, to the fact that kids like it).
> about all this in the April 23, 1999 front page article of Jewish Week.
> He was/is the agent for Run-DMC, Def Jam, Public Enemy, and a whole
> slew of others. He is seen as the one "who helped rap and hip-hop
> cross over from urban America to become the dominant musical taste of
> the white suburbs, in whose shopping malls 65 percent of all rap
> records are bought.
Again, many record executives helped usher rap along to become popular with
white kids, but it became popular because kids like it.
> Why did I raise this issue? Most rap lyrics have been condemned as
> glamorizing ghetto life, inciteful speech and lyrics that the
> Anti-Defamation League called "toxic" in its 1992 special Report on
> Hateful Lyrics in Rap and Rock. The article says "The report
to say "most" is frighteningly inaccurate. there are thousands of rap songs
released each year, and the vast majority have nothing to do with Jews or
anything political or racial. Most are about having fun, or about love/sex,
just like any pop songs. there is, of course, a relatively large portion of
songs that address ghetto life and violence. some of it is worthy of being
condemned, and a lot of it is at least exploitative, but most of it simply
involves young people talking about, for better or worse, what they see.
> specifically targeted Public Enemy, a group signed to Def Jam
> Records, and whose members were devotees of Louis Farrakhan."
> Cohen staunchly defended Public Enemy when their songs rapped about
> Jews crucifying blacks and made comparisons to Jesus a few years
There have been less than a handful of times where blatant anti-Semitism has
appeared in a recorded rap song (there is a larger issue of anti-Semitism in
the black community, just as there is an issue about racism in the Jewish
community, and some rappers have been known to express anti-Jewish thoughts
off the record). P.E. has perpretrated a most noxious kind of anti-Semitism
on two occasions. Noxious, because the group is largely seen (otherwise
deservingly) as offering among the most intelligent and well-written
discussion of the problems and issues facing the black community. While their
credibility in this area is ruined for me by their occasional anti-Semitism,
for those who don't know better, unfortunately, their general credibility
lends a degree of credibility to their anti-Semitism. The first case of
P.E.'s anti-Semitic lyrics came in the early '90s, when the group recorded
for Def Jam. At the time, I never came across any instance of Cohen
"staunchly defending" the group (and I read quite a bit about it), though it
wouldn't suprise me given that he's a businessman interested in protecting
his business. I do recall, however, that Def Jam's publicist, Bill Adler (who
continues to work in the rap world), wrote a book-length refutation of an
outrageously anti-Semitic Nation of Islam publication (The Secret
Relationship Between Blacks and Jews) after rapper Ice Cube cited the NOI
book as "worth checking out"
P.E.'s second instance of anti-Semitism came this year, on a song not
released by Def Jam (but rather by Atomic Pop, an Internet music company run
by Al Teller -- just what? -- a Jew).
As for Cohen (and Bronfman and others), I agree that they bear a
responsibility for what they put out, and don't always live up to it. But we
must not overstate the issue of anti-Semitism in rap, and we certainly should
not rely on Jewish Week for our information about the music.
-Roni Sarig
---------------------- jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org ---------------------+
- FW: RUN-DMC?,
Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky
- RE: FW: RUN-DMC?,
Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky
- RE: FW: RUN-DMC?,
Klezcorner
- RE: FW: RUN-DMC?,
Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky
- Re: FW: RUN-DMC?,
Rmsarig
- Re: FW: RUN-DMC?,
robert wiener
- Re: FW: RUN-DMC?,
Rmsarig
- Re: FW: RUN-DMC?,
Rmsarig
- Re: FW: RUN-DMC?,
robert wiener
- RE: FW: RUN-DMC?,
Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky
- RE: FW: RUN-DMC?,
Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky
- Re: FW: RUN-DMC?,
Rmsarig