RE: Re[4]: FW: [2ND-GEN:7773] Re: Perry Como

[Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky <reyzl...>]

Let me know when you conduct this experiment.  I would love to know how it 
turns out.  I would predict probably according to our expectations.  It's hard 
to find tabala rasa people with western ears who don't have any pre-conceived 
notions.   Someone must have done such experiments somewhere.   Mark Slobin or 
Kay Shelemay may know.   


Reyzl


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From:  richard_wolpoe (at) ibi(dot)com[SMTP:richard_wolpoe (at) ibi(dot)com]
Sent:  Tuesday, December 15, 1998 1:27 PM
To:  World music from a Jewish slant.
Subject:  Re[4]: FW: [2ND-GEN:7773] Re: Perry Como  


We all can relate to the universal spiritual motifs that stir our collective 
hearts.  Of course the specifics get to be very different.  without resurrecting
the haTikvo thread, rembmer that Hatikvo stirs Jewish hearts one way and its 
cousin the Moldau stirs Bohemiam hearts another way.

I'd be interested in an anthropological study that let neutral pepole who have 
no prvious exposure to those respective pieces, have a listen and find out how 
they feel.

Frelichn Chanukko
Rich Wolpoe 
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Subject: RE: Re[2]: FW: [2ND-GEN:7773] Re: Perry Como  
Author:  <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org> at Tcpgate
Date:    12/15/98 2:03 PM


>My own expereicne and the confidential confessions of others has confirmed that
>many of us are stirred by sacred/liturgical music of all stripes....

>By analogy, one can like the 
>MELODIES and not the lyrics to a lot of Christian favorites (Schubert's Ave 
>Maria comes to mind).



Yes, I meant the song "Ave Maria" not "Silent Night", but only when Luciano sing
it.   It's totally flat or awful if anyone else sings it, no matter how sonorous
he voice.   But when he sings it, it's just magical.    So, I guess it isn't jus
the melody itself, in my case.

>Lewandowski's vuv'tseil kenofecha has a bar or 2 that is an unmistakable 
>adaptation of Silent Night's "Holy infant ..." phrase.

You should hear Jack Gottlieb's lecture on this.   He takes Jewish music and 
showselements from classical musicians and then does the reverse with non-Jewish
 music.Is it one influencing the other or just an accident?   One's response is 
   quite often "he's gotta be right", but who really knows.   There are some 
winning combina ons in the phrasing of Western music.


Reyzl

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