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Re: "well-tempered"?
- From: BarMusProd <BarMusProd...>
- Subject: Re: "well-tempered"?
- Date: Fri 22 Mar 2002 01.47 (GMT)
Dear Peter,
In a message dated 3/21/02 3:02:01 PM, klezbanjo (at) yahoo(dot)com writes:
>Yeah us string players who play chords know all about this. Because of
>subtleties in ratios between harmonics, an "evenly tempered" instrument--
>e.g., tune each note exactly to what a metronone says it should be-- might
>not sound great when you're playing chords. Why banjos can sound great
>in one key but may sound out of tune in another. Especially effects plucky
>sounding instruments like banjos, tsimbls and especially harpsichords,
>where there have been many treatises written on the issue. THere are a
>bunch of different tuning systems that optimize particular keys.
Wait a minute here--it depends on what you mean by "sounding great." (And I
trust you mean a "tuner" rather than a metronome, unless you have a real
fancy one that gives pitches as well as beats per minute.) If you are talking
about maximizing just intonation, where everything is based on the overtone
series and is acoustically pure, it basically cannot be done to work in all
keys at the same time unless you are playing an instrument (or singing, of
course) that is infinitely adjustable--like unfretted strings (violins and
the string family) or a slide trombone. But if you would constantly play or
sing in just intonation, you'd better do it solo because you're not going to
be in unison with most any other instrument, and you will subtlely change
pitch center as you go along because just intervals don't divide the octave
equally (for example, if you ascended by justly tuned perfects fifths until
you reached the starting note again [a number of octaves higher] you would be
about 24 cents [about a quarter-tone] too high--the famous "Pythagorean
Comma"--equal tempered fifths are tuned about 2 cents flat to compensate for
this). Equal temperament (and all other temperaments) are compromises with
just intonation to allow us to play equally (or unequally) slightly out of
tune in all keys. But our ears over the centuries have also gotten used to
the slightly out-of-tuneness of equal temperament, and it allows us to play
together reasonably in tune with most other instruments. Whew--I haven't
waxed on like that for many years--my apologies.
But fixed fretted instruments like the banjo, unless the frets are not placed
properly, should be in equal temperament (in fact the presence of fretted
instruments--although in the early days of lutes and viols, etc., the frets
were adjustable--was one of the early impetuses for the acceptance of equal
temperament. These fretted instruments could play in more keys and sound more
or less in tune in all of them, unlike the harpsichord or organ, which was
still tuned (in the earlier times) in an attempt to stay closer to just
intonation, using "mean-tone temperaments" or a number of others as you
mentioned. I don't understand why a modern fixed-fretted instrument like
banjo or guitar should sound better or worse in one key or another, unless
you are talking about the acoustical phenomenon of keys using more of the
open strings (which are tuned in just fifths rather than tempered fifths, I
would assume) than the keys that use more finger-stopped notes to play the
chords, which would then be in the slightly out of tune equal temperament.
Have I just (no pun intended) answer my own question? Is this what you were
referring to?
Best wishes,
Steve
Steve Barnett
Composer/Arranger/Producer
Barnett Music Productions
BarMusProd (at) aol(dot)com
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