Re: Healing

[Trudi Goodman <goobietheg...>]

   Shirona:
    It's not that many people on this List, don't know about what your 
issues are with Kol Isha. I'm sorry that you didn't get the response you 
wanted. The best way that I can put it is this: my father(bHsoHso) Chenik 
Zelig would say that if you put 12 Jews in a room you are going to get AT 
LEAST 14 different opinions. As a woman I am not happy(an understatement) 
with Kol Isha, sheitels or any of that other stuff. But I will not tell 
other Jews how to live(there are enough Gentiles wandering around these 
days, trying to do just that). Yes, these proscriptions teach women (and 
men) to hate their bodies and creative impulses...that's my opinion, too. 
But that's my opinion. So, as I suggested earlier in the week: don't 
patronize events/places that have Kol Isha. And raise heck just as you are 
doing. I'd be happy to discuss this off list with you, but(and it's a big 
BUT) some people are just not going to "get" why you are mad about this, or 
want to do something about it. I'm happy to help anyone who wants to do 
something about it(it's pissed me off for years). I just don't expect 
everyone to want to. Sad as that is. But hey, some Jews would not view that 
as "sad"...and they have a RIGHT TO. Whether you or I like it or not. And I 
will stand up for these Jewish chaverim's rights to disagree with anyone and 
everyone. My bottom line is I love Jews...and it's like family: you may not 
always(understatement)agree with them. You may fight with them at times. You 
may not always like them...but you LOVE them.
On that note:
Shalom,Love and lots of great stuff,
   Trudi the G



>From: "shirona" <shirona (at) bellatlantic(dot)net>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Healing
>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:26:23 -0800
>
>As the debate rages on - concerning the Kol Isha Ervah issue, I'm still 
>surprised, and disappointed, that so few people  focus on the fundamental 
>premise of the problem.  In medicine, and in psychology, it is common 
>knowledge that for true healing to take place - one needs to get to the 
>CORE of the problem. In order to cure Cancer - we need to kill every cancer 
>cell in the body, because if we don't - it will develop all over again.  In 
>healing relationships we try our best to get to the bottom line of what is 
>causing the problem - because if we don't - the same problem will erupt 
>again, just like the cancer.
>
>Can we all agree that we have a serious problem here?  Can we all agree 
>that we need  healing?
>
>We need to get to the root of this "pathology".  Why are we wasting so much 
>time and energy on  minutiae? How much longer can this dialogue continue 
>poking around the surface?   It's like trying to heal Cancer with 
>band-aids.  If we don't understand why this problem is so tough to resolve, 
>- we will never heal.  It will never just "go away".
>
>I asked this question before - but no one answered me yet. (except for a 
>"diss" from Eric...)
>
>There are only TWO sexes in this world,  to the best of my knowledge.  Is 
>it OK that one sex has the power to make all the rules that bind both 
>sexes, and that the other sex has no say in that process.  For me it is 
>that simple, and the answer is either yes or no. If this is not the core 
>issue - then what is?
>
>Adrian, I hope you don't find this posting too "off-topic".  I'm actually 
>trying to hasten a "conclusion"!
>
>With much respect and anticipation for the full spectrum of opinions out 
>there.
>
>Shirona
>
>
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