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Re:Judeo Arabic/North African music
- From: Robert Cohen <rlcm17...>
- Subject: Re:Judeo Arabic/North African music
- Date: Tue 06 Apr 1999 16.35 (GMT)
Judith, I'm mystified (but I'm assuming this will be relevant to all
...for whom it's relevant): Your liner notes for "Me vaya kappara" (on
Gerineldo III) don't _at all_ indicate that it's a rendition of the
Shirat Hayam--seems to be no connection at all. (You describe the song
as "a piece of light social satire"--not clear satire of what.) What
gives?
>From: "Judith Cohen" <judithrc (at) hotmail(dot)com>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant. <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re:Judeo Arabic/North African music
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 04:00:36 PST
>
>Hi, first, thanks for the kind words, Ari!! Glad you liked our
concert!!
>They're actually both separate and not separate. Judeo-Arabic songs
are,
>first of all, in Judeo-Arabic (not Judeo-Spanish/haketia - often
>ERRONEOUSLY called Moroccan Ladino). They share some melodies, and
>especially for wedding and liturgical/semi-liturgical songs, some
>rhythms as well; and sometimes you hear Judeo-Spanish translations of
>Judeo-Arabic songs; but mostly it's quite a different repertoire,
>corresponding roughly to the difference between the former Spanish
>Protectorate (the North - Tangier, Tetuan, and the area) and the former
>French zone ( the rest). There is a good CD of piyyutim by Albert
>Bouadahana (I think, have to check) and a few others (Emil Zrihan on
>Piranha) - but these are mostly in Hebrew; there's less Judeo-Arabic on
>recordings. And, to my knowledge, none of WOMEN's repertoire in J-Ar
>except a couple of cuts on the old Westminster "In Israel Today"
series,
>now reissued on CD ;(but Joel has more discographic info at his
>fingertips than I do in this and I'm sure he'll be sending it in, maybe
>typing at this very minute); also the fabulous old recordings made by
>Paul Bowles will eventually be issued (a colleague and I are doing the
>jacket notes, but it won't be tomorrow or anything!) Take care, thanks
>again, Judith
>
>
>>From: Ari Davidow <ari (at) ivritype(dot)com>
>>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>>To: World music from a Jewish slant. <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>>Subject: Re:Judeo Arabic/North African music
>>Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:26:27 -0400
>>
>>>Are there any people on this list interested in Judeo Arabic/north
>African
>>>....Moroccan music?
>>
>>Absolutely! In fact, I had the pleasure last week of listing to a
>>lecture/concert by list member Judith Cohen (accompanied by her
>>daughter), who is very knowledgeable (and performs wonderfully
>>well) in just that area. Well, more Judeo-Spanish, but I'm not
>>sure the degree to which they are separate.
>>
>>ari
>>
>>Ari Davidow
>>The klezmer shack: http://www.well.com/user/ari/klez/
>>owner: jewish-music mailing list
>>e-mail: ari (at) ivritype(dot)com
>>
>>
>>
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