Re: Associations

[Stuart Friedman <stuart_28...>]

Lewandowski, Naumborg, and others wrote to fulfill the need of making 
traditional Nusach Hatfila as beautiful as possible.  Not just as music 
but to make it beautiful and meaningful.

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>Doessomebody own Adon Olam?  Do you believe it has always been sung to 
one
>particular melody?
>
>> From:        taxrelief (at) worldnet(dot)att(dot)net (winston weilheimer)
>> Sender:      owner-jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
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>> To:  jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org (World music from a Jewish slant.)
>> 
>> Who gave us the right to "adapt" Adon Olam (or any part of the 
liturgy) to
>> any melody "we" see fit?
>> 
>> 
>> who gave any of the great composers of Jewish music the "right" to do 
so.
>> As I write this, I am listening to Tal recording of Yossele 
Rosenblatt, one
>> of my favorite pieces.  On the same CD is the Kaminsky version of the
>> Kaddish.  Who gave Lewindowski the hechsher to compose all of the 
beautiful
>> music we have?
>> 
>> I have been reading these "itsy bitsy spider" posts for the last 
three weeks
>> or so, and wondering...
>> 
>> If it is so disgusting, how did it become THE standard in every shul 
I have
>> ever been in.   The popularity and meaningfulness of any melody rests 
with
>> the congregation and if a congregation wishes to change, we are all 
free to
>> do so.
>> 
>> I came across a CD of a concert of Russian Chazonim with a wonderful 
tune
>> for Kadishenu B'mitzvosecha.  I had never heard it before, but it was 
so
>> infectious that I introduced it to our congregation.  It has a 
refrain of
>> Bam Bitty Bam, which all of the congregation, and especially the 
children
>> love.   Our services are not concerts, and if a particular melody is
>> uplifting and meaningful, then I see nothing wrong with introducing 
it or
>> using one that is use.  I have not read any posts which offer 
alternatives
>> to the Alenu melody, just a disapproval of the "itsy bitsy spider" 
melody.
>> BTW, if you sing itsy bitsy spider,,,it is not the exact melody used 
in
>> Alenu, but there is a resemblance.
>> Concerning Adon Olam, as a younger person, I was the adult leader of 
a Jr
>> Congregation in Maryland.  We would learn Adon Olam to different 
melodies
>> and occasionally we would be invited to the "adult" service at the 
end of
>> the service and the congregation always looked forward what I had 
cooked up,
>> amongst them "she'll be comin around the mountain and special for 
Pesach
>> (which I still do in my current congregation) Adir Hu.  For Channukah 
we
>> sing to Mo-oz Tsur (its a stretch but can be fit).  It adds meaning 
and I
>> see nothing wrong with it.
>> When we left Md for Orlando, Florida, the service which was dedicated 
to
>> saying goodbye to our family ended with a surprise Adon Olam, 
suggested and
>> encouraged by the Rabbi, and kept strictly secret from me.  It 
brought tears
>> to my eyes when as a tribute to my tenure there, the kids and 
congregation
>> sang Adon Olam to "Its A Small World."
>> 
>> While traditional nusach is wonderful, we do not need to always sing 
without
>> improvision.
>> 
>> Winston Weilheimer
>> Spiritual Leader (lay Rabbi)
>> Temple Israel of DeLand (fl)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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