Re: Har Nof women's conservatory

[glenn tamir <klezska...>]

It would have been "Nuff said" for the report to
simply say that there is a wonderful music
conservatory in Har Nof that serves a previously
underserved community.  

My step-sister has lived in Har-Nof for 8 years so I
do know something about the culture.

--- Ari Davidow <ari (at) ivritype(dot)com> wrote:
> Possibly so, in this community. And who would you or
> I be
> to say otherwise? That's the point. It's not a
> culture we
> live in (we=you or I). 'Nuff said?
> 
> ari
> 
> >My point was that the quote that, "Their high level
> of
> >awareness of their bodies allows them to know what
> to
> >express outwardly" implies that those who do not
> >choose that way have less awareness.  Does
> awareness
> >of one's own body necessitate one to keep the body
> >covered? Or, does one have to wear a long skirt to
> >know that one has legs?
> >
> >How can a person be "aware" of the the potential
> >beauty and spirituality of the many talented
> musicians
> >in the world when 50% of them are "off limits?"
> >
> >How can that not "limit" one's awareness?
> >
> > 
> >--- Ari Davidow <ari (at) ivritype(dot)com> wrote:
> >> But aren't those questions better answered by
> those
> >> for whom
> >> the issues matter, rather than by those of us
> >> outside that
> >> community?
> >>
> >> ari "I'd rather focus 100% on community, and
> enjoy
> >> the music that
> >> fits the given time and place" davidow
> >>
> >>
> >> >It's a shame that there can't be a 100% focus on
> >> the
> >> >music without the distractions of worrying about
> >> these
> >> >other non-musical issues.
> >> >
> >> >It says in the article:
> >> >
> >> >At the conservatory, religious restrictions are
> not
> >> >seen as obstacles to artistic expression. Ballet
> >> >teacher Minah Nahmani, who also teaches at the
> >> Rubin
> >> >Academy of Music and Dance in Jerusalem, said
> that
> >> the
> >> >girls' modesty brings a new dimension of grace
> to
> >> >their dancing: "Their high level of awareness of
> >> their
> >> >bodies allows them to know what to express
> >> outwardly
> >> >and what to keep inside. It is expression
> through
> >> >hiding."
> >> >
> >> >Is one supposed to infer that covering up one's
> >> body
> >> >or resticting what one listens to (kol isha)
> >> enhances
> >> >awareness?  I find that to be hard to believe. 
> The
> >> >reverse is probably true.
> >> >
> >> >--- Judith R Cohen <judithc (at) YorkU(dot)CA> wrote:
> >> >> hi, check this out in Ha-aretz:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://www3.haaretz.co.il/eng/htmls/kat28_2.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> Interesting write-up of an Orthodox women's
> music
> >> >> conservatory -
> >> >> comments by the ballet teacher about how the
> >> women
> >> >> and girl's "natural
> >> >> modesty"gives them more grace, "expression
> >> through
> >> >> hiding".... and how
> >> >> hard it is to design a ballet costume which
> >> allows
> >> >> for both modesty and
> >> >> freedom of movement. Judith
> >> >>
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> >> >> ---------------------+
> >> >>