Re: Making Judaism Cool

[Trudi Goodman <goobietheg...>]

Nu?
Why not?  Maybe she has the yeshiva education to do so?
An open mind is always useful, Robert.
Is the problem because she's a woman or what?
One of the best Kabbalic scholars I ever met was a woman...and a Lubavicher. 
  If they didn't have a problem with that why should you.
Hey, I know you'll tell me...and that's what makes a horse race
Be Well AND...
Hey welcome to the 21st century.
Trudi(LR)


>From: "Robert Cohen" <rlcm17 (at) hotmail(dot)com>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: Making Judaism Cool
>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:34:28 PDT
>
>I'll sidestep the Judaism being cool debate until I've considered and
>reflected more on the phenomenon (if then), but as a far as Roseanne, the
>issue is not whether she cares about being Jewish, contributes to Jewish
>causes (I'm delighted if she does), or, for that matter, wants to study
>Judaism--though Kabbalah would usually be considered an inappropriate place
>to begin.  The issue is whether she should be *teaching* (which is, I
>assume, what is meant by "leading") Kabbalah studies (which, at least on 
>its
>face, sounds absurd).  The answer is almost certainly No.
>
>--Robert Cohen
>
>
>>From: "Trudi Goodman" <goobietheg (at) hotmail(dot)com>
>>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>>Subject: Re: Making Judaism Cool
>>Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:32:30 PDT
>>
>>
>>  Hey why shouldn't Roseanne be leading kabbalah studies...does the fact
>>that she is a performer mean that she doesn't care about being Jewish?
>>No...as a matter of fact she has given long-standing support to the Jewish
>>Community, particularly through Jewish Charities, such as the charitable
>>wing of the B'nai Brith.  So?
>>   Are we be back to yet another discussion of who is REALLY a Jew and who
>>has the right to be?  I'll have to check with my Irish Jewish great
>>Grandfather on that one!
>>   As for Judaism and Jewish culture being "cool" we could do worse.  I
>>find
>>that people who are actually interested in Jews stick around long past the
>>fads.  These coolniks actually come to Jewish Music concerts...ya know?
>>      Zei Gezunt
>>      Trudi the G, LR (Lepracohen in Residence)
>>
>>>From: Ari Davidow <ari (at) ivritype(dot)com>
>>>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>>>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>>>Subject: Making Judaism Cool
>>>Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:07:59 -0400
>>>
>>>There is an interesting take on new Jewish music from the March edition
>>>of Tikkun magazine that I just discovered:
>>>
>>>http://www.tikkun.org/0003/0003schorsh.html
>>>
>>>I think there's some meat there worth discussing, if anyone else is
>>>interested. Certainly the "cool" issue as regards new Jewish music, as
>>>used
>>>by the author, rings a bell. The author also peripherally touches on an
>>>issue raised obliquely by Ruth Wisse in her review of Henry's
>>>book--klezmer, or
>>>cool new Jewish music, on their own, do not carry a Jewish life.
>>>
>>>That doesn't matter, if one is appreciating the music because it is
>>>exciting, wonderful, Jewish soul music (to the extent that the best
>>>new Jewish music is those things), and it has nothing to do with how
>>>one live's one's life or one's identity as a person.
>>>
>>>It is absolutely irrelevant for those people already immersed in
>>>Jewish life, for whom a variety of new Jewish music (not necessarily
>>>klezmer or "cool") is a living part of that life.
>>>
>>>But for many of us, this new Jewish music is something more than the
>>>soundtrack to struggles with defining who we are as Jews. As people
>>>living Jewishly outside the mainstream of Jewish life, or trying to
>>>influence the Jewish mainstream to our own political or cultural
>>>visions, the music carries additional weight and relevance.
>>>
>>>And, yet, I suspect that for many of the people about whom the author
>>>of this article is writing, this "cool" is enough, or is substituting
>>>for something deeper. Roseanne leading kabala study, indeed!
>>>
>>>Anyway, as I said, if the article strikes any of these chords, let's
>>>do discuss it.
>>>
>>>http://www.tikkun.org/0003/0003schorsh.html
>>>
>>>ari
>>>
>>>
>>>Ari Davidow
>>>ari (at) ivritype(dot)com
>>>list owner, jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>>>the klezmer shack: http://www.klezmershack.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
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