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Re: "Songs to the Invisible God" review...
- From: eliott kahn <elkahn...>
- Subject: Re: "Songs to the Invisible God" review...
- Date: Mon 20 Mar 2000 21.19 (GMT)
I am not a specialist in ancient music, but I believe excellent Israeli
musicologists such as Hannoch Avernary and Robert Lachman have done much
substantiative research proving Werner's point.
I will also tell you, as someone who has analyzed Gregorian chant, that the
method of motivic organization to create melodies is IDENTICAL to "trop" or
Please offer proof otherwise, if you believe Christian monophonic chant is
not derived from Jewish cantillation.
At 03:44 PM 3/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > Please remind him of the book "The Sacred Bridge" by E Werner which showed
> > that Christian chant came from/was based upon/ Jewish chant.... (and while
> > some details of Werner's arguments may be in dispute these days),
> > nevertheless the basic premise remains: the idea of chanting came from the
> > ancient Jewish Temple and predates Christianity.
>I would be lax to bring up Werner's book as authoritative in ANY context,
>save that of a valiant but unsuccessful attempt to substantiate what remains
>an unsubstantiated and speculative assumption. The connections scholars can
>find between Jewish and Christian Chant before the 17th century are
>serendipitous at best, and often require several leaps of logic to come to
>any overarching conclusion. Werner's work was special primarily in that he
>made these leaps of logic with great passion, self-assurance and abandon.
>This may initially sound surprising considering how deeply the "Sacred
>Bridge" theory sits within Jewish music studies. But check the evidence--or
>lack thereof. Upon some scrutiny, most arguments melt away into
>speculation--and until we can find some way to move beyond documentary
>evidence (or, until some notated "Dead Sea Scrolls" are found), it will
>probably remain that way.
Eliott Kahn, D.M.A.
Library of the Jewish Theological Seminary of America
New York, N.Y. 10027
FAX: (212) 678-8998
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