Re: Banner ads on the List

[robert wiener <wiener...>]

Ari,

Maybe I'm having a bad day, but I don't understand what you wrote.
That is, it seems that I don't understand the contents of what you
wrote.  And I read it several times.  So I'm not sure whether I agree
or disagree with your position.  Since I'm not sure what it is.

Are you suggesting that these postings in any way advance our
discussion of Jewish music?  I've studied Talmud and write philosophy,
but I cannot understand how that would be so.  And if the postings
have nothing to do with Jewish music, why are we finding them in our
mailboxes?

Your comment "if there are problems with people on the list, they will
be handled via private e-mail" suggests that you don't perceive there
to be a problem with this person since their repeated postings show
that the situation has not been "handled".

The problem is not so much with the mode of expression, but with the
content of the messages.  Would you knowingly send viruses to our
computers?

Your reference to censorship suggests that this is a First Amendment
issue (another topic on which I have written).  It is not.  I too
favor a free marketplace of ideas, even when not constitutionally
required, but these ideas are in the wrong market.  It does not seem
to me to be a question upon which reasonable people may differ; in
other words, a no-brainer.  These posts are not even tangentially
relevant to the theme that has brought us together.

People pick and choose what to do with their time (e.g., what to
read).  It seems that members of this list would like you to act on
their behalf in this instance.

Are you hesitant to act without a consensus of list members as to what
to do?  If so, ask for one.  I, for one, do not ask for a public stand
from you.  If you privately block such inappropriate messages, that
would be fine with me.

Is there a technical problem in dealing with such postings?  (Clearly
I'm no computer geek.)  If so, tell us.

I hope that I have, at least in part, understood and responded to your
comments.

I have a great deal of respect for your time and for the time of the
other members of the list, but the repeated postings and your public
response make this a public issue.

I apologize for this divergence from discussing Jewish music.

Sincerely,
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Ari Davidow <ari (at) ivritype(dot)com>
To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
Date: Friday, July 30, 1999 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Banner ads on the List


>At 01:22 PM 7/30/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>Ari:
>>
>>(This is not an attack, lest I be accused of same.)
>>
>>Are eye-catching, colorful banner advertisements a la Von Drashek
okay
>>for the rest of us with something to market to the List, then?
>>
>>Your silence in the face of several objections about the Captains's
>>adverts from List Members would signal assent.  Please correct me if
I'm
>>wrong.
>
>As I have been quite vocal, often, repeatedly, and repetitively, if
there
>are problems with people on the list, they will be handled via
private
>e-mail.
>
>You may take it as a given, however, that if a certain behavior
causes
>public complaints to the list, it's probably not something to which
you
>want to contribute, whether or not I take a public stand.
>
>What I don't understand is why anyone on this list would choose to
>publicly embarrass someone else merely because his or her chosen mode
>of expression differs from the norm, or why you would prefer to
censor
>it. Some people choose to post personal attacks several pages long.
>Others have animated signatures advertising their products without
>attacking anyone. I am not going to take a public stand unless there
>are personal attacks, or unless someone attacks the right or ability
>of others to post. If I am discussing issues with someone by private
>e-mail, it is, and will remain, private.
>
>Respect for differences are easy for all of us when people are
different
>our way. The official policy of this list is to respect the difficult
>differences, as well. I trust that is not a problem, and if so, that
we
>can discuss it by private mail.
>
>I thank you for emphasizing that yours was just a query, not an
attack.
>
>ari
>
>
>Ari Davidow
>ari (at) ivritype(dot)com
>list owner, jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>the klezmer shack: http://www.klezmershack.com/
>
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