[HANASHIR:14413] Re: Another Hatikvah question

[Daniel Bogard <dbogard...>]

I think I can help with all of this---the terminology is an exact
translation.  Christ is the straight translation of messiah, and both mean
anointed one---it being a reference to the practice of 'anointing a king
with oil upon his forehead when he would be crowned....

In fact, within Spanish speaking countries, the term 'cristos' is still used
to talk of the messiah to come.

Daniel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch Bassman" <mbassman (at) erols(dot)com>
To: <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 12:39 PM
Subject: [HANASHIR:14412] Re: Another Hatikvah question


> Julia,
>
> Well, I acknowledge that I do not know the Greek language at all, but,
yes,
> it does mean "anointed one." That's exactly what "messiah" means: the
> anointed one of G-d. Calling Jesus "Christ" is what identifies one as a
> Christian.
>
> For multiple dictionary references, including etymologies, see
> <http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=christ>.
>
> --Mitch
>
> At 11:30 AM 05/22/2003, Julia Priest wrote:
> >I thought Christos meant annointed one?
> >Sorry, my Greek is pretty rusty--do you know anyone with a Liddell and
Scott
> >dictionary on hand where we can check?
> >Julia
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mitch Bassman [mailto:mbassman (at) erols(dot)com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 11:38 AM
> > > To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> > > Subject: [HANASHIR:14336] Re: Another Hatikvah question
> > >
> > >
> > > At 12:57 AM 05/20/2003, Rahel wrote:
> > > >The next year, in a different class at a different synagogue, I
> > > was asked
> > > >by a student if I could teach the class about Jesus Christ [sic]. I
> > > >declined stating that we were here to learn about Judaism. I
suggested
> > > >that they could research about Jesus Christ [sic] in many other
> > > places and
> > > >on their own time.
> > >
> > > I do agree with Rahel's comments, but, if the student posed the
question
> > > the way you cited it, then you missed a perfect opportunity to teach
your
> > > student something specific about Judaism. Our kids need to
> > > understand that
> > > Jews (as well as persons of any other non-Christian religion) do
> > > not refer
> > > to Jesus (son of Joseph) as "Christ" because only Christians believe
that
> > > he was the "Christ" (from the Greek word for messiah or moshiach in
> > > Hebrew). It bothers me to hear (or read) Jewish colleagues
> > > referring to the
> > > man as though "Christ" were his last name rather than an
> > > honorific applied
> > > only by Christians. Remind your students that people didn't have
> > > last names
> > > at that time, that his name was probably Yeshuah ben Yosef, and that
the
> > > title (not name) of "messiah" (i.e., Christ) was applied only
> > > later by his
> > > disciples. That much you could teach them, so that they don't grow up
> > > referring to "Jesus Christ" as though that were the actual name
> > > of someone.
> > >
> > > We now return you to your regular discussions about music.
> > >
> > > --Mitch Bassman
> > >
> > >
>
>

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