Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai

[Eliezer Kaplan <zelwel...>]

>Are you saying that the same tune appears in Scott's work? 

Yes. The 'Od avinu chai' part.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gavriel Bellino 
  To: World music from a Jewish slant 
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 5:38 PM
  Subject: RE: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai


  Are you saying that the same tune appears in Scott's work? 

  As I wrote before: There were tunes for these words as early as 1920. Perhaps 
earlier. 



  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-jewish-music (at) 
shamash(dot)org] On Behalf Of Eliezer Kaplan
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 5:31 PM
  To: World music from a Jewish slant
  Subject: Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai



  Well since Raymond Scott's 'Dinner Music for a Pack of Hungry Cannibals' 
dates from 1937 and has the same theme let's just assume that Reb Shlomo picked 
it up subconsciously.

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Richard Green 

    To: World music from a Jewish slant 

    Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 5:08 PM

    Subject: Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai



    Shlomo Carlebach wrote the popular melody in the 60's when the leaders of 
the Soviet Jewry Movement (Student Struggle for Soviet Jewry) came to him and 
asked him to compose an anthem.  This can be verified by Avi Weisz of the 
Hebrew Institute of Rivendale who spoke at Shlomo's levaya and mentiioned the 
nigun.  It appears on the I Heard the Wall Singing recording of the 1960's.  
And I have that recording in my collection.

    >From: Kfarcenter (at) aol(dot)com 

    >Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org 

    >To: World music from a Jewish slant 

    >Subject: Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai 

    >Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:16:01 EDT 

    > 

    >I thought there was a Carlebach conneciton to the song... 





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