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Re: mitzvot music



The origin of "vows" in weddings has been covered; but some churches DO
have a canopy.  At least Catholic cathedrals have a baldachin or baldaquin
or baldachino - variant spellings - over the high altar.  Not Jewish in
origin, associated with weddings  or symbolic of Abraham's tent, to the
best of my knowledge, but a canopy nonetheless, and the dictionary says the
word is of Middle Eastern origin.

Fred Blumenthal
xd2fabl (at) us(dot)ibm(dot)com



                                                                                
                                 
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i was at a wedding recently between two graduate students from HUC (one
pre-rabbi, the other jewish community service/education), where they
wrote their own vows and said them while the cantor played on a harp.

so, yes. though i suppose now someone is going to claim that reform
practitioners aren't real jews...

also, i've been to one intermarriage ceremony where they had vows, but no
music at that point.

and a catholic wedding (at which i was the photographer) where they sang
"sunrise, sunset" during the ceremony. it was a struggle to keep from
laughing when the line "under the canopy" went by.

-jeremy


On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Ms. Cat wrote:

> I've never been to any Jewish weddings that have them
> (unless maybe you mean an intermarriage?). Have you.
> (Real question. not facetious.)
>
> Alana
>
> --- Eliezer Kaplan <zelwel (at) attbi(dot)com> wrote:
> > TRADITIONAL Jewish weddings don't have those.
> >                                                 ek
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ms. Cat" <alanamscat (at) yahoo(dot)com>
> > To: "World music from a Jewish slant"
> > <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: mitzvot music
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- Jeremy A Schiffer <schiffer (at) columbia(dot)edu>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > What are "the vows" ?!
> > > >
> > > > The wedding vows. "Do you promise to honor,
> > cherish
> > > > ... as long as you
> > > > both shall live."
> > >
> > > Um - Jewish weddings don't have these.
> > >
> > > Alana
> >
>
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