Re: Jewish Music Definition

[glenn tamir <klezska...>]

Of course if the text is of a Jewish source and the
music is some other influence then you must call it
Jewish music to some extent.  When I take traditional
Jewish melodies and put them to Ska and Reggae, I
certainly consider it Jewish music but I also consider
it Jamaican music.


--- Marvin <physchem (at) telocity(dot)com> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Klezcorner (at) aol(dot)com>
> To: "World music from a Jewish slant"
> <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Jewish Music Definition
> 
> 
> >
> > In a message dated 5/2/1 2:39:53 PM,
> lubet001 (at) maroon(dot)tc(dot)umn(dot)edu writes:
> >
> > <<  Adon Olam can be sung to almost any tune
> > including Amazing Grace, at which time I'd submit
> it becomes Jewish music.
> >  >>
> >
> > I agree with most of what you said, however I feel
> there are melodies
> that,
> > regardless which Jewish lyrics you might use,
> "Adon Olam" , " Ein
> Keloheinu",
> > etc, the music can never be considered Jewish. Can
> you set "Kol Nidre" to
> the
> > molodie of "Silent Night, Holy Night" and consider
> it Jewish? How about
> > "Avinu Malkeinu" sung to "Deutchland, Deitchland
> Uber Ales" ?
> >
> > Isn't that somwhat like putting butter on a piece
> Kosher meat, it was
> > "Jewish" , but it "Ain't Jewish no more!"
> >
> 
> Some (or many) prayers are sung to "traditional"
> melodies that have been
> identified as coming from non-Jewish sources.  I
> guess that after a
> generation or two, they have become "Jewish."
> 
> If there is any conclusion I've reached from similar
> discussions in the
> maillist, it is that "Jewish music" resists
> definition.
> 
> 
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