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RE: kol isha and Carlebach
- From: Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky <reyzl...>
- Subject: RE: kol isha and Carlebach
- Date: Tue 14 Mar 2000 21.59 (GMT)
Just freed from doing one major project and am reading my stuffed box backwards.
SO VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THIS NEWS. Can you privately send me more info
about this momentous event?
Reyzl
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From: Robert Cohen [SMTP:rlcm17 (at) hotmail(dot)com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 1:51 PM
To: World music from a Jewish slant
Subject: Re: kol isha and Carlebach
There's no need to open an extensive thread on this subject, but just FYI
(where Y = yo, chevra--+ Sonja, obviously): Neshama Carlebach *has* sung,
as a performer, in the Carlebach shul (and, astonishingly, at Lincoln Square
Synagogue, for that matter, and elsewhere).
Of course the shul *is* Orthodox (though w/ some liberalities--too few for
some of us--that are not found at other Orthodox shuls), so women don't lead
services. BTW, I'm advised that a new, monthly "living room minyan" in
Newton, Mass., is a self-styled "progressive Orthodox" minyan in which women
participate to the very maximum extent that, in the view of the (male and
female) members, is allowed--extending, I am told, to leading the
preliminary portions of services. -- Robert Cohen
>From: kalmer (at) jmk(dot)su(dot)se (Sonja Kalmering)
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: kol isha and Chabad and Carlebach
>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:52:54 +0100
>
>With all due respect to what Shlomo Carlebach and his music means to
>people; at the Carlebach shul in NY, women aren't allowed to act as
>songleaders/performers, and can sing along only from the women's section
>(although I understand that women are allowed to play instruments at some
>occasions).
>/Sonja
>
> Keep in mind that Shlomo
> >Carlebach, z"l, *left* Chabad because he could not get a heter
>(permission)
> >to sing before mixed audiences (i.e., of men and women)--and that was a
> >question of a (Orthodox) *man* singing! Just try getting Chabad,
>anywhere,
> >to sponsor a concert involving Jewish women singing ... -- Robert
> >
>
>
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