Re: kol isha and Carlebach

[Robert Cohen <rlcm17...>]

There's no need to open an extensive thread on this subject, but just FYI 
(where Y = yo, chevra--+ Sonja, obviously):  Neshama Carlebach *has* sung, 
as a performer, in the Carlebach shul (and, astonishingly, at Lincoln Square 
Synagogue, for that matter, and elsewhere).

Of course the shul *is* Orthodox (though w/ some liberalities--too few for 
some of us--that are not found at other Orthodox shuls), so women don't lead 
services.  BTW, I'm advised that a new, monthly "living room minyan" in 
Newton, Mass., is a self-styled "progressive Orthodox" minyan in which women 
participate to the very maximum extent that, in the view of the (male and 
female) members, is allowed--extending, I am told, to leading the 
preliminary portions of services. -- Robert Cohen

>From: kalmer (at) jmk(dot)su(dot)se (Sonja Kalmering)
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: kol isha and Chabad and Carlebach
>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:52:54 +0100
>
>With all due respect to what Shlomo Carlebach and his music means to
>people; at the Carlebach shul in NY, women aren't allowed to act as
>songleaders/performers, and can sing along only from the women's section
>(although I understand that women are allowed to play instruments at some
>occasions).
>/Sonja
>
>  Keep in mind that Shlomo
> >Carlebach, z"l, *left* Chabad because he could not get a heter 
>(permission)
> >to sing before mixed audiences (i.e., of men and women)--and that was a
> >question of a (Orthodox) *man* singing!  Just try getting Chabad, 
>anywhere,
> >to sponsor a concert involving Jewish women singing ... -- Robert
> >
>
>
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