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Re: "Weakening of Yiddishe culture"
- From: Ben Gidley <ucs01bg...>
- Subject: Re: "Weakening of Yiddishe culture"
- Date: Tue 01 Dec 1998 09.32 (GMT)
Of course you're right, Moshe, and I hope what I wrote won't be read as
blame. It's a complex issue that I addressed perhaps far too hastily!
Ben
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Moshe Hochenberg wrote:
> Earlier today, one of the contributors suggested that
>
> "Sephardic Jews were very in the dominant position vis a vis Ashkenazim and
> this was a major factor, in the early years of this century, for the rapid
> weekening of Yiddish culture here [in Britain]."
>
> It seems unfair to rationalise away the abandonment of tradition
> and culture by certain Ashk'nazim by simply blaming their Sfaradi
> co-religionists. The culture was previously maintained through (or
> perhaps, because of) all sorts of adversarial times and situations.
> Some change, perhaps suggested by the "ruling" community, was
> nevertheless willingly adopted and embraced by the Ashk'nazim
> themselves.
>
> From: richard_wolpoe (at) ibi(dot)com <richard_wolpoe (at) ibi(dot)com>
> To: World music from a Jewish slant. <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> Date: 30 November 1998 16:21
> Subject: Historical footnote
>
>
> >In the 1880's and 1890's when Eastern European Jews were coming to the USA
> in
> >droves, there were Jews and Non-Jews who distinguished the old-timers (i.e.
> >Sephardic and German Jews) by using Hebrew as opposed to the newcomers who
> were
> >referred to as Jews.
> >
> >Restricted Hotels in the Catskills (yes the Catskills was most unJewish
> about
> >100-120 years ago!) would allow "Hebrews", but not "Jews".
> >
> >Both the Spanish Portuguese and the German Jews did NOT speak Yiddish.
> Yiddish
> >speaking Jews were not accepted for a long time.
> >