Mail Archive sponsored by
Chazzanut Online
jewish-music
RE Kol Isha
- From: hainsof <hainsof...>
- Subject: RE Kol Isha
- Date: Wed 21 Feb 2001 07.33 (GMT)
-----Original Message-----
From: Eliezer Kaplan <zelwel (at) earthlink(dot)net>
To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
Date: 21 February 2001 05:03
Subject: Re: libidinous swamps
My wife and I decided that the Kol Isha thing is intimately related (no pun
intended) to the shaitel thing and the yichud thing- and I'll bet if (you're
living in the 'modern' world enough so that) the last 2 don't bother you, then
neither does the first. OTOH, I'll bet all three of these these things bother
my Rabbi.
EK
I've been following this discussion with detached interest. We are in the
middle of the worst storm in Jerusalem, high winds, rain (much needed), and the
threat of snow. In this country, snow just has to be mentioned on the news and
the entire population runs to the supermarket, to stock up on food for the
week. Anyone living on the East coast would be amazed at the Israeli reaction
to the threat of snow.
To Kol Isha - The Rabbis chose to classify the injunction of Kol Isha
along with the prohibition of seeing the hair of a married woman. It's not
mentioned in the context of the laws of modesty. I wonder if there's a
difference between hearing the voice of a married or unmarried woman.
Quite a while after I began working on my lullaby CD (www.batkol.com) I
saw a quote from the Sede Chemed who was a well known Sephardic Rabbi I think
lived around 150 years ago. He writes explicitly that it is permissible to
hear the voice of a woman lamenting the dead, or if she is singing a child to
sleep. I imagine he was referring to the mother singing in the house, rather
than performing lullabies in public!!, but still in today's religious world it
wouldn't go down too well.
I hope to look up Rabbi Saul Berman's article - probably find it at HUC
library. I feel that since this issue affects so many of us, and raises so
many emotional responses, I'd like to have access to as much information as
possible. I wonder if the Gemara tells us the name of the person who wrote
those fateful words Kol Isha erva - and then what else does he say? Does he
focus in on how to reach holiness and the spiritual, or is he a source of
misogynistic statements?
I know the power of the voice, both male and female, and I can appreciate
that there are some men who are on a spiritual path, and a beautiful voice
could distract such a person, but such people are really rare, and it's a real
shame that many of us suffer because the mainstream orthodox community, and its
leaders cannot find the courage to say Yes, but keeps on saying NO, even when
there are plenty of loopholes, and a way could be found to be lenient.
All the best
Hanna Yaffe