Re: Miriam

[Lori Cahan-Simon <l_cahan...>]

Don't stand, bubele, dance!  ;-)

George Robinson wrote:

> I stand corrected. According to the Plaut translation (the one used in
> most Reform synagogues and the one nearest my computer at the moment),
> "Miriam chanted for them." Which I take to mean sang.
>
> George (chant, shmant, so long as you got perfect pitch) Robinson
>
> Lori Cahan-Simon wrote:
> >
> > So Miriam took a timbrel and all the women went with her and danced.  And 
> > Miriam
> > sang for them.  Did the men listen?  Did they join in?  Were they clapping? 
> >  Then,
> > when they were done, Moses had everybody leave the scene.
> >
> > George Robinson wrote:
> >
> > > Khaverim --
> > >
> > > I've never weighed in on this issue before for the simple reason that
> > > anyone on this list knows that I review any and all Jewish music --
> > > obviously I listen to women singers and treat them with the same respect
> > > or lack thereof that I do men. And I'm not going to get into it now,
> > > either.
> > >
> > > (Although I will respond to Winston's remark here -- having just done a
> > > Torah Study group on Parshat Yitro, I have to correct you, friend.
> > > Miriam and the women "dance" at the Reed Sea. In fact, according to some
> > > of the commentaries we read, this distinction is the reason that the
> > > rabbis argued in favor of the idea of Kol Ishah in the first place.)
> > >
> > > I have a nit to pick albeit a small one (aren't all nits small? Never
> > > mind). As threads split off into multiple directions, can't people
> > > please retitle their postings to accurately reflect their departure from
> > > the main argument? Yeah, I know this is really trivial, but it would
> > > make my life slightly easier and maybe other list members too.
> > >
> > > George (no nit too small, no boulder too large) Robinson
> > >
> > > George Robinson
> > > Author, Essential Judaism
> > > Please visit my website, "Essential Judaism and Beyond"
> > > at www.GeorgeRobinson.freeservers.com
> > >
> > > WINSTON WEILHEIMER wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >From: Margotlev (at) aol(dot)com
> > > > >Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
> > > > >To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: Kol Ishah
> > > > >Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:57:06 EST
> > > > >
> > > > >I stand with my sisters here
> > > > >  and with my brothers
> > > > >   When the Messiah comes,
> > > > >  and she is coming soon
> > > > >   all our voices will blend together
> > > > ********************************************************************
> > > > (editorial comment) i sure hope she hurries....us men havent been able 
> > > > to
> > > > get the thing done!
> > > > ***********************
> > > > since we have learned that the kol isha issue is halachic and stems from
> > > > talmudic times, it stands to reason that when miriam sang her song in 
> > > > the
> > > > desert, men heard the singing.  So much for women being freed from 
> > > > slavery
> > > > too! at least after the time of the Talmud....
> > > >
> > > > btw...this morning i played a cd called kol isha compiled by the "rock'n
> > > > rebbitzen" Michele Garner, who is the wife of an orthodox rabbi and who 
> > > > has
> > > > a weekly show on the radio and the net (friday mornings) from staten 
> > > > island.
> > > >   The first song is called the kol isha blues.  I will put it on the
> > > > playlist for the live show on nusach this week.  It will play on Monday
> > > > night Thursday night at 10pm eastern and next sunday morning at 9am 
> > > > eastern.
> > > >   The show can best be accessed through my web site at
> > > > http://sites.netscape.net/nusachmaven
> > > >
> > > > (kol isha warning....I play music by women on my show!)
> > > >
> > > > Winston Weilheimer
> > > > Host/OWNER
> > > > NUSACH INTERNET RADIO NETWORK
> > > > Nusach, THE ORIGINAL SOUL MUSIC!
> > > >
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> > > --
> > >
> >
>
> --
> George Robinson
> Author, Essential Judaism
> Please visit my website, "Essential Judaism and Beyond"
> at www.GeorgeRobinson.freeservers.com
>

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