Miriam

[Lori Cahan-Simon <l_cahan...>]

So Miriam took a timbrel and all the women went with her and danced.  And Miriam
sang for them.  Did the men listen?  Did they join in?  Were they clapping?  
Then,
when they were done, Moses had everybody leave the scene.

George Robinson wrote:

> Khaverim --
>
> I've never weighed in on this issue before for the simple reason that
> anyone on this list knows that I review any and all Jewish music --
> obviously I listen to women singers and treat them with the same respect
> or lack thereof that I do men. And I'm not going to get into it now,
> either.
>
> (Although I will respond to Winston's remark here -- having just done a
> Torah Study group on Parshat Yitro, I have to correct you, friend.
> Miriam and the women "dance" at the Reed Sea. In fact, according to some
> of the commentaries we read, this distinction is the reason that the
> rabbis argued in favor of the idea of Kol Ishah in the first place.)
>
> I have a nit to pick albeit a small one (aren't all nits small? Never
> mind). As threads split off into multiple directions, can't people
> please retitle their postings to accurately reflect their departure from
> the main argument? Yeah, I know this is really trivial, but it would
> make my life slightly easier and maybe other list members too.
>
> George (no nit too small, no boulder too large) Robinson
>
> George Robinson
> Author, Essential Judaism
> Please visit my website, "Essential Judaism and Beyond"
> at www.GeorgeRobinson.freeservers.com
>
> WINSTON WEILHEIMER wrote:
> >
> > >From: Margotlev (at) aol(dot)com
> > >Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
> > >To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> > >Subject: Re: Kol Ishah
> > >Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:57:06 EST
> > >
> > >I stand with my sisters here
> > >  and with my brothers
> > >   When the Messiah comes,
> > >  and she is coming soon
> > >   all our voices will blend together
> > ********************************************************************
> > (editorial comment) i sure hope she hurries....us men havent been able to
> > get the thing done!
> > ***********************
> > since we have learned that the kol isha issue is halachic and stems from
> > talmudic times, it stands to reason that when miriam sang her song in the
> > desert, men heard the singing.  So much for women being freed from slavery
> > too! at least after the time of the Talmud....
> >
> > btw...this morning i played a cd called kol isha compiled by the "rock'n
> > rebbitzen" Michele Garner, who is the wife of an orthodox rabbi and who has
> > a weekly show on the radio and the net (friday mornings) from staten island.
> >   The first song is called the kol isha blues.  I will put it on the
> > playlist for the live show on nusach this week.  It will play on Monday
> > night Thursday night at 10pm eastern and next sunday morning at 9am eastern.
> >   The show can best be accessed through my web site at
> > http://sites.netscape.net/nusachmaven
> >
> > (kol isha warning....I play music by women on my show!)
> >
> > Winston Weilheimer
> > Host/OWNER
> > NUSACH INTERNET RADIO NETWORK
> > Nusach, THE ORIGINAL SOUL MUSIC!
> >
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