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Re: Lehman Engel & Levi Yitzchak's Kaddish
- From: Kame'a Media <media...>
- Subject: Re: Lehman Engel & Levi Yitzchak's Kaddish
- Date: Fri 01 Sep 2000 01.33 (GMT)
Hi Bob:
Paul Robeson: "Scandalize My Name" (The Classics Record Library)
gives only "Engel" as arranger. Mysterious.
Wolf
wiener (at) mindspring(dot)com wrote:
> Robert,
>
> My mention of Lehman Engel came from the contents listing to the CD
> Paul Robeson: Songs of Free Men (Sony Classical MHK 63223).
>
> LEHMAN ENGEL (1910-82) is written in caps in large font in red above
> "Chassidic Chant" 2'40 (Recorded on January 27, 1942.).
>
> I don't know where they got this information and don't know which of
> the named persons should get credit/blame for putting it in print.
>
> I just looked at my Monitor LP Paul Robeson: Favorite Songs. There I
> find "Hassidic Chant: Kaddish" 2:40 (Arranged by J. Engel).
> I have not compared the 2 recordings, but the timing would lead me to
> believe that they may be identical. And J. Engel is much more likely
> to me than L. Engel.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Cohen <rlcm17 (at) hotmail(dot)com>
> To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:23 PM
> Subject: Lehman Engel & Levi Yitzchak's Kaddish
>
> >Inspired by a mention on the list of an autobiography (THIS BRIGHT
> DAY) of
> >Lehman Engel, whom I'd never previously heard of (of course, now I'm
> >noticing his name as a conductor on numerous recordings), I took the
> book
> >out of the library. I didn't read it--it seems, frankly, like a
> typical
> >breezy, chatty memoir of not that much substance, though I don't mean
> it's
> >anything bad--but I did glance through it, and in particular I
> checked the
> >index quite thoroughly. Observe what I found:
> >
> >There are *no* entries for Jews/Judaism/Jewish music; none for Levi
> Yitchak
> >of Berdichev under any possible spelling; none for his (or any)
> Kaddish;
> >none for Paul Robeson--for whom, someone averred here, L.E.
> translated (and
> >arranged?) Levi Yitchak's Kaddish.
> >
> >Now, obviously, the lack of a mention of the L. Y. Kaddish, if indeed
> it
> >isn't mentioned (and the index seemed otherwise thorough), doesn't
> actually
> >prove anything--though it would seem odd, certainly given Robeson's
> fame,
> >for Engel not to have mentioned such a collaboration. But I remain
> highly
> >skeptical that Lehman Engel had anything to do w/ Levi Yitchak's
> Kaddish, or
> >its English-language adaptation as sung by Robseon, at all--and I
> still
> >welcome any evidence anyone has to that effect or otherwise.
> >
> >--Robert Cohen
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