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Re: kol isha and Chabad
- From: Robert Cohen <rlcm17...>
- Subject: Re: kol isha and Chabad
- Date: Thu 09 Mar 2000 23.05 (GMT)
This is quite thoughtfully put, and I think I agree w/ the gist of it, but
Chabad hardly deserves the credit they're given here. They *do* do
outreach, obviously, to Jews not in their fold--and, indeed, do deserve
credit for rendering many Jewish services to Jews not in their fold--but I
would argue that they meet people strictly on their--Lubavich
Orthodox--terms, *not* on "their" (others') terms. Keep in mind that Shlomo
Carlebach, z"l, *left* Chabad because he could not get a heter (permission)
to sing before mixed audiences (i.e., of men and women)--and that was a
question of a (Orthodox) *man* singing! Just try getting Chabad, anywhere,
to sponsor a concert involving Jewish women singing ... -- Robert
>From: MaxwellSt (at) aol(dot)com
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Bridge Building instead of Burning (kol isha)
>Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:45:33 EST
>
>I agree with this, but also consider why Chabad is so successful: they meet
>people where they are, knowing that if there is no contact, there can be no
>conversion. I wouldn't consider a concert for frum women so much
>concession
>to "their rules" as making the possibility for a relationship, and with
>that
>relationship, the possibility of influencing the community to your point of
>view. We are all Yidn, not enemies, after all, and kol isha is not a
>bigoted
>point of view so much as a law, like all those other laws, that the
>Orthodox
>sign on to because they believe that they come from a higher authority.
>
>
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- Re: kol isha and Chabad,
Robert Cohen