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Re: Kol Isha/Trudi's Yiddish/2



Hey Trudi says enough already, or genug avay!
you like me, love me, hate me,or hate my yiddish or combinations of all of 
the above... at least I love the language and I intend to help keep it in 
motion and alive. Either disrespect me to my face or leave me aleyn vi a 
shteyn.
and by the way, I keep telling you that it's not pure Yiddish, but hey, it 
ain't pure German either...I know the difference having sung German Lieder 
for years.
happy new year and now get on with life...
Trudi the G

>From: "Kame'a Media" <media (at) kamea(dot)com>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: Kol Isha/Trudi's Yiddish
>Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 09:22:45 -0400
>
>
>
>Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky wrote:
>
> > OK, let's make it all proper Yiddish.
> >
> > <take nokh amol>
> > <dayn velt iz di kleyner velt> <mayn is gants andersh ikh denk, ober 
>zis>
> >
> >
> > <take nokh amol>
> > <dayn velt iz a kleyne velt.  Mayn iz, meyn ikh, gants andersh, ober 
>zis.>
>
>Depends on if Trudi meant " smallER world"   or just "world".
>
> > Thank God we got rid of all that previous pure German.
>
>I concede that "denk ikh" is <daytshmerish> but that does not make it 
>improper
>Yiddish, only regional vernacular.   It is true that <tsu denken> implies a
>more active cogitation than Trudi's sentence necessitates so, your 
>substitution
>of <meyn ikh> is good.
>
>I maintain that the word order is somewhat  flexible, although I should 
>have
>inserted commas, too.
>
>Picky, picky.
>
>Wolf
>
> >
> >
> > Reyzl
> >
> > ----------
> > From:  Kame'a Media [SMTP:media (at) kamea(dot)com]
> > Sent:  Friday, September 24, 1999 2:34 PM
> > To:  World music from a Jewish slant
> > Subject:  Re: Kol Isha
> >
> > Right on, Shira!
> >
> > I can begin to understand why someone with your mindset left copyright 
>law.
> > Great post.  People just tend to shy away from real issues.
> > I am shocked that an issue pertaining to social justice, not to mention 
>the
> > aspirations and livelihoods of many on this list (who struggle with this
> > stuff every day)  would be perceived as a "rat hole" and not an 
>opportunity
> > to effect change.
> >
> > You made your point very well.
> >
> > Steve --
> > To me, a musical group was always an "Us-against-the-world" proposition.
> > All for one and one for all, -- in all sincerity.
> > I would feel disloyal doing what you do under these circumstances.
> > It's like: "Okay, we won't bring the Black guy".
> > Your position perpetuates, in my view, a social injustice and panders to
> > dangerous regressive forces that harm us all.  The intermarriage and
> > assimilation issue is a distraction.
> >
> > Then again, if it's only business -- There was an early rock and roll 
>group,
> > the Hollywood Argyles. They had  white, Black and Latino line-ups.
> >
> > Jewish life and living are too precious to be dominated by the 
>monolithic
> > arcane views
> > of a handful of MEN ONLY.
> >
> > I believe Judaism is an evolving civilization.
> > Jewish institutions are another matter.
> >
> > We can only hope that through protracted peace and the healing of
> > survivor families, the uprooted, embattled and impoverished,
> > we can truly evolve and leave the tired obscure outlooks of mere mortal
> > men behind.  Infallibility is not a Jewish concept as applied to human
> > beings.
> >
> > Let's play Halakhic Hot Seat:
> >
> > Let's say there is a singing Jewish hermaphrodite out there.
> > Can  orthodox men listen to the verses, but not the choruses?
> >
> > Trudi Goodman wrote:
> >
> > > ayn take mol..
> > > daynes veld iz die kleynzeker veld, maynes iz gantze sondern ish denk 
>aber
> > > zis.
> >
> > Guerilla Yiddish Lesson #208
> > <take nokh amol>
> > <dayn velt iz di kleyner velt> <mayn is gants andersh ikh denk, ober 
>zis>
> >
> > Wolf
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>

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