Re: "or la-goyim": P.S.

[Robert Cohen <rlcm17...>]

Uh, sorry as usual for the P.S.--but just wanted to mention that the phrase 
"goy kadosh" appears not just in liturgy but in the Torah/Chumash (Five 
Books) itself--in the book of Exodus/Sh'mos; don't have at hand for exact 
sourcing.  We are told--I believe one or two parsha'ot (portions) before the 
Ten Commandments, that we are to be a "kingdom of priests and a holy 
nation"--the second part is a "goy kadosh."  (That's why "goy" 
originally--Biblically--has no negative connotations at all; it just means a 
nation, including us.  Came idiomatically to mean non-Jews as a whole or 
[sing.] a particular non-Jew, and obviously often derogatorily.)  Hope 
informative--rlc


>From: "robert wiener" <wiener (at) mindspring(dot)com>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: Israel Music Today: Piracy
>Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:20:50 -0400
>
>Robert,
>
>That seems right.  I know that "goy kadosh" is found in the prayer
>"Shomer Yisrael", but what is the source of the phrase "or la_goy_im"?
>Probably something worth knowing.
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Cohen <rlcm17 (at) hotmail(dot)com>
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Date: Thursday, July 29, 1999 8:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Israel Music Today: Piracy
>
>
> >It's "or la_goy_im" (a light unto the nations/peoples--the original,
> >non-derogatory meaning of "goy"; we Jews are also a "goy" and should
>be a
> >"goy kadosh"--a holy people, according to the Torah)--but the point
>is
> >taken.
> >
> >
> >>From: "robert wiener" <wiener (at) mindspring(dot)com>
> >>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
> >>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> >>Subject: Israel Music Today: Piracy
> >>Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:26:42 -0400
> >>
> >>Marketplace, Wednesday, July 28, 1999
> >>
> >>Attack on Music Piracy
> >>
> >>The U.S. has long wanted Israel to crack down on the piracy of
> >>software and compact discs.  Now facing warnings of possible trade
> >>sanctions, the Israeli government is finally beginning to take
> >>actions.
> >>Patricia Golan reports.
> >>
> >>http://www.marketplace.org/archives/rundown/1999/07.28.html
> >>
> >>Golan reported that an estimate 80% of CDs sold in Israel are
>pirated.
> >>
> >>Is there a connection between this report and the state of Israel
> >>Music Today?
> >>
> >>(Let alone the notion of being "Or L'Amim", a light to the nations.)
> >>
> >>Bob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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