RE: Elvis Stuff

[Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky <reyzl...>]

Trudi,

Let me explain something really important to you.


Lurkers on mailing list have no right to complain.  Regular posters are not 
here to offer you information and entertainment on what interests you.   We 
talk about what interests us.  You want another topic?   You initiate the 
conversation and who ever is also interested in the same will respond to 
you.  As you see, sometimes you will get informed people responding and 
sometimes it will be people who only think they are informed.

Till then cherish your delete button.


Reyzl


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From:  Trudi Goodman[SMTP:goobietheg (at) hotmail(dot)com]
Sent:  Tuesday, July 13, 1999 4:33 PM
To:  World music from a Jewish slant
Subject:  Re: Elvis Stuff

>From Trudi Goodman:
I want to know why you are all so obsessed with who is Jewish???
It makes you what, better Yidn?
My response is to try having a sense of humor.  It wouldn't kill you. I'm
fairly religious, so I am not requesting that someone not care about that. 
What I am requesting is that people just GET OFF THEIR HIGH HORSES ABOUT
JEWS.!!!
WE ARE JUST PEOPLE, NOT BETTER OR WORSE THAN ANY OTHER PEOPLE.
I am all for celebrating Jewish diversity.  That means everybody's
diversity.  And if the El was proud of his Jewish relatives, so
be it.  That is good enough for me.
If you don't like that, and need to see a frum Jew under
every bush and tree in someone's family tree, I feel sorry for you. Because 
it means that you are short-sighted and unrealistic about what it means to
be a Jew in the world.
As for my credentials as a Yid---my first cousin was Joseph Shubow, the
chief Rabbi of Boston, is that GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU?
Zei Gezunt.
And how about some discussions about Jewish culture and diversity???
My mother's family is North African and I would like to hear more about
that.
As for the slam about Black music?  Why is that chazerei necessary?
Good music is good music.  As Mozart said(himself rumored to be a Jew)
Love...Love... that is the Soul of genuis.
So try some love here, as opposed to sectarianism!
I'm tired of this from you guys and incredibly pissed off about it.
Shalom and Peace be with you.
Trudi Goodman

>From: "Kame'a Media" <media (at) kamea(dot)com>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: Elvis Stuff
>Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:18:24 -0400
>
>
>
>Trudi Goodman wrote:
>
> > From: Trudi Goodman
> > Check his friend George's biography/memoir of the El.
> > George is Jewish.  Knew Elvis since childhood, grew up in the same 
hood.
>  I
> > believe his last name is Stein???
>
>Klein.
>
> > The story goes that when Elvis' mother died--according to her wishes,
> > because her mother was Jewish(El's grandmother) she wanted a Jewish 
star
> > puton her headstone.Elvis did this--and his father Vernon freaked and
> > demanded that it be removed---Vernon didn't want anyone to know that 
his
>wife
> > was part Jewish.
>
> > I don't know if the star is actually still on the headstone---many
>people
> > knew this story though.
> > Elvis always maintained that he was part Jewish.
> > Of course, some of his friends were Jews growing up, like George.  Also 
>when
> > his family was destitute(I think when his father Vern was in Jail) a
>local
> > Rabbi rented his mother and him an apartment--or gave them space to 
live
>in
> > his basement.
> > So, if he wasn't Jewish he at least wanted to be.  Close enough for
>Jazz, I'd
> > say.
>
>I beg to differ.  Acknowledging one's family history and blood lines is
>hardly
>the same as "wanting to be Jewish".   Elvis  had no Jewish upbringing;  he 
>was
>raised in the church and at revival meetings. If he had wanted to be
>Jewish, I
>don't think he would have recorded all those gospel albums or celebrated
>Christmas like aSouthern <poretz>, with his legendary lavish gift-giving,
>do
>you?'
>There is no record of any <seder> ever having taken place at Graceland or
>of
>Elvis ever exploring conversion...According to the definitive Elvis
>biography
>(the two-volumes by American Music scholar Peter Guralnick -- Elvis did
>indeed
>have Jewish ancestry on his mother's side.  He also carried  a dozen other
>blood lines including Native American and several European nationalities.
>
>I don't think "close enough for jazz" is either a valid or an accurate
>statement.
>The implication is that jazz is some sort of sloppy, half-ass music.  One 
>must
>be
>a very good and well-versed player to improvise creatively, no?
>
>Wolf
>
>
> >
> >
> > >From: Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky <reyzl (at) flash(dot)net>
> > >Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
> > >To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> > >Subject: RE: Julio Inglesias Jewish? -Reply
> > >Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:00:36 -0400
> > >
> > > >My understanding is that Elvis's maternal grandmother was Jewish.
> > >
> > >I don't think that this is true.   I know that his mother was born in
> > >Palestine but that doesn't automatically mean that the family was
>Jewish.
> > >
> > >
> > >Reyzl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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