Re: Jews and Christians

[robert wiener <wiener...>]

Ingemar,

Thanks for your perspective.  It broadened my vision.

Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Ingemar Johansson <hebanon (at) swipnet(dot)se>
To: World music from a Jewish slant. <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 12:48 AM
Subject: Jews and Christians


>Not being a Jew myself I would like to state this. Of all the
institutions
>of christianity the churches (catholics and protestants alike) are
the
>worst ones: these organisations have always willingly served
oppressors,
>have lent themselves to this very task - Luther actively taking part
in the
>crushing of the German Peasants Revolt in the 16th century and at the
same
>time spouting about the rights of the little man (his modern
followers are
>hypocrits of the same kind - believe me, I have to live with their
>stupidity every day), the Russian Orthodox Church as a mainspring for
>pogroms, the Catholic Church's pursuit of dissenters and its neurotic
>fright of  the living forces as such from the very start until today.
The
>(religious and political) rulers of christianity have as much blood
on
>their hands as Hitler and Stalin together (who actually shouldn't be
>regarded as christians - both of them tried to replace conventional
>religion with their own brand, although the unquestionable submission
to
>authority is one and the same). It's all an endless and disgusting
list...
>
>Someone here told about "his" invention to replace "Jesus" with
"cheeses"
>and "Christ" with "nice" when performing before christians. With all
due
>respect I cannot help but think of the German who in between the wars
>shouted "Heil Mittler!" (conveniently meaning "Long live the
mediator!"),
>and then some years later wondered a little why some of his
neighbours
>disappeared so "mysteriously". Of course, he himself was not to blame
as he
>hadn't ever praised a mean man.
>
>We all have to compromise at times. But that doesn't mean that we
should
>make a virtue out of it.
>
>Her nor,
>Ingemar J.
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