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[HANASHIR:16069] RE: Desperately seeking Maoz Tzur



Aura,

1) I think you do a great service.
2) I never did know how an arm (even God's) could "avail us", even if it is
correct
3) Audiences, I am certain, cannot hear the difference between armor veiling
us and an arm availing us -- it's just intriguing. And of course, it's nice
and proper to sing it correctly. :-)

Best,
Jackie Guttman (discover of the phrase)


> From: Aura Lipski <aura (at) jewishaustralia(dot)com>
> Reply-To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 08:54:14 +1100
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> Subject: [HANASHIR:16051] RE: Desperately seeking Maoz Tzur
> 
> 
> Hi Marsha - 
> 
> I will check this translation and the source. How interesting that this has
> been raised and I thank you for it.
> 
> We have been using these song sheets at home and in performance for years
> here in Melbourne in many public occasions, and no one has ever queried the
> wording.
> 
> As I think I may have mentioned, I'm pretty sure they are from Theodore
> Bikel's singable translation in the booklet of his wonderful recording,
> Classic Jewish Holiday and Shabbat Songs
> http://www.hatikvahmusic.com/cgi-bin/details.pl?key=986
> 
> 
> But I will go back and check.
> 
> Regarding your comment that a music publisher should check Jewish sources -
> of course, in theory, you are absolutely correct.
> 
> To clarify: We are not music publishers. We are an Online network of culture
> and information sites that are interactive based on the requests of our
> readers. Hebrew Songs.com is completely non-profit - on the contrary, it is
> a labour of love by myself and wonderful contributors from around the world.
> 
> We have the warmest endorsements - published and unpublished - from Israeli
> songwriters and musicians. Ehud Manor, who has written over a thousand songs
> including Chai and Bashanah Haba'ah, paraphrased a line from his famous song
> "Ein Li Eretz Acheret - I have no other country" to write an amazing
> dedication on our front page. As did David D'Or, who is representing Israel
> in next year's Eurovision. I just spent time in Israel meeting with Ehud
> again and the reaction to the Hebrew Songs website has been overwhelming in
> Israel. 
> 
> People from all over the world send us songwords - or requests for song
> words - and we do the research to source the composers and performers, and
> find the links from an independent, privately owned music website in Israel.
> This enables people who only know the name of a song to find the CD it is on
> and learn about the artist.
> 
> We now have over 700 songs linked on Hebrew Songs.com
> Many have gaps and errors, and if I won the lottery I would hire a team and
> do nothing else. Such is my love for Hebrew music, as shared by our readers.
> This site alone logs over 600,000 hits a month worldwide so it's a wonderful
> thing to share.
> 
> We also have people sending us corrections all the time, which we love.
> 
> So I will do my best to check this translation, and I thank you again for
> raising the potential error.
> 
> Warm wishes
> 
> Aura Levin Lipski
> Publisher 
> Jewish Australia Online Network
> 
> Hebrew Songs dot com
> http://www.hebrewsongs.com
> 
> Israeli Dances dot com
> http://www.israelidances.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) 
> shamash(dot)org] On
> Behalf Of Marsha Fensin
> Sent: Friday, 5 December 2003 6:18 AM
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> Subject: [HANASHIR:16050] RE: Desperately seeking Maoz Tzur
> 
> Hi,
> The correct translation is  the arm availing us and has nothing to do
> with armor.  You would think that a music publisher would check Jewish
> sources.  Oh well, Marsha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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