[HANASHIR:15438] Re: Dealing with Fools

[I. Oppenheim <i.oppenheim...>]

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Adrian Durlester wrote:

> The archives of the hanashir list are not available to the general public,
> but only to subscribers.

As far as I know the archives are publicly available
through http://shamash.org/listarchives/hanashir/

> Telephone calls are more easily tapped and traced
> than e-mail.

The biggest concern with e-mail is not the risk of
eavesdropping, but the ease with which e-mail can get
misdirected due to mistakes of the sender and/or the
original receiver. I fully agree with the points made
by Ros.

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 Irwin Oppenheim
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) 
> shamash(dot)org] On
> Behalf Of Ros Schwartz
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 12:01 AM
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> Subject: [HANASHIR:15417] Re: Dealing with Fools
>
>
> Here's a different angle on the "fools" issues.  To Edward:  I don't
> know how to resolve this problem, I am just raising it as an issue to be
> considered.
>
> While I find this group an excellent resource to work out many many
> sorts of difficulty ... it makes me very nervous when too many personal
> details are included in a letter, which could clearly identify an
> individual.
>
> I live about a three-hour drive from Edward Katz, and though I have
> never met him or his congregation, it's a small enough world that I
> could have.  And it's not impossible that his cantor - or even the
> conductor he describes - could one day sign on to Hanashir, search its
> archives, and find out exactly what Edward _really_ thinks.
>
> Email is an extremely risky form of personal communication, because of
> its ease of misdirection, and its permanence on some people's servers or
> computers.
>
> Three cautionary tales, about emailing personal info.
>
> 1.  I once wrote a long letter about person X, to person Y, in the
> middle of the night, when I was extremely tired.  In my sleepy state,
> when I went to fill in the address, I _almost_ clicked on person X
> instead of person Y.  Now there would have been a tale to be told!!!
>
> 2.  Another time - when I was more awake - person A emailed me about her
> concerns about person B.  This time I was extremely careful to be
> tactful in my reply ... which was lucky ... since person A then, in
> haste, left my comments attached at the end of her reply back to person B!
>
> 3.  Certain viruses pick out random files from your hard drive, and
> email them out to random addresses in your address book.  Someone I know
> had confidential email concerning their synagogue made public in this
> way, it was very unpleasant.
>
> So ... now I try to be very careful of what I put into writing.
> Delicate matters, I prefer to handle by telephone, which is less subject
> to misunderstanding - less subject to misdirection - and much less
> permanent.
>
> - Ros

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