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[HANASHIR:10919] Re: 20Re: Adon Olam and Bar Mitzvahs
- From: Freedabet <Freedabet...>
- Subject: [HANASHIR:10919] Re: 20Re: Adon Olam and Bar Mitzvahs
- Date: Wed 13 Feb 2002 02.57 (GMT)
I think it also has a lot to do with the size of the congregation. A large
congregation has so many demands on it (aliyot, ufruf, etc.) that the role of
the B/Mitzvah is but one of many simchas, and there may be one or more per
Shabbat, while at a small congregation the B/Mitzvah is personally known to
all and something for the congregation to kvell over.
Michael
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> In a message dated 2/12/02 2:01:14 PM, srtalina (at) hotmail(dot)com writes:
>
> << My experience (although limited) has been that the bar/bat mitzvah does
> have
> a substantial vote in the melodies and content of the service, at least in
a
> Reform setting. I would suppose the reason behind this is that the bar/bat
> mitzvah is leading a large portion (if not all) of the service and that it
> is that person's special day. >>
>
> Again, I find this very interesting, because it really depends on the
> individual Reform Temple. The philosophy where I belong has been that
Shabbat
> Services are not just for the Bar Mitzvah or Bat Mitzvah. They are for
> mourners and other congregants who just want to observe Shabbat.
> So the bar/bat mitzvah really does not lead most of the service. There may
be
> a reading by a guest at the beginning, or by the bar/bat mitzvah, and there
> may be a short talit ceremony at the start, but not until the Torah
service,
> does the Bar Mitzvah have much of a role. Whoever is in charge of music
does
> not ask the family for suggestions on the whole. If a family wants a
special
> musical request, they can ask an often get what they want, but there is no
> guarantee. On the other hand, there is another Reform temple in town that
> Ive visted for a bar mitzvah, and there, the Bar/Bat mitzvah does lead the
> entire service, but the difference is (besides the Rabbis and there own Min
> hagg) is that it is a very small congregation compared to the one I belong
to
> and most of the congregants, if not all, who come to the bar mitzvah are
> guests of the family. I also sing at another very small congregation and
have
> yet to witness what a bar mitzvah is like, but I may be singing as one of
> them soon, so Ill find out!
>
> Sincerely, Ellen Lerner, Rochester, Ny.
>
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