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[HANASHIR:8256] RE: A Woman's Place (Kol Isha)
- From: shirona <shirona...>
- Subject: [HANASHIR:8256] RE: A Woman's Place (Kol Isha)
- Date: Mon 19 Feb 2001 23.34 (GMT)
Adrian,
At the time of posting the note "A woman's place" - I had a feeling I would
hear from you... :-) But I truly believe that the issue I raised is the CORE
of the problem, and that's why I posted it. Think about it. If you strip away
layer after layer and try to get to the bottom of the issue - this is what
you'll find. Can you find another "bottom line? I mean - what is the point of
having a discussion if we only stay on the surface of things?
I am sorry if I offended anyone out there ( Jordan, Eric, Judah, ) - but it's
hard not to offend when you already feel so offended, as I (and obviously so
many others ) do by "Kol Isha Ervah". It's hard not to show a degree of
disrespect - when I'm forced to hear that my voice is linked to "nakedness and
lasciviousness". Sorry.
My voice is my instrument. G-d has given me a beautiful and spiritual voice,
and all I want to do with it is sing to and praise
G-d. What I do with the music I compose and sing is the farthest thing form
"nakedness and lasciviousness" as you can imagine. That is why this saying,
"Kol Isha Ervah" tears at the fabric of my soul - it hurts so much - more than
you'll ever know. This is why I printed on the face of my CD, in Hebrew
letters, "Kol Isha T'filah"...
Shirona
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----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Durlester
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 12:47 PM
Subject: [HANASHIR:8252] RE: A Woman's Place (Kol Isha)
While, as ListOwner, I felt it worthwhile to allow this thread to continue,
it now lies dangerously close to leaving behind any connection whatsoever with
the original discussion - on the subject of "Kol Isha," and I would have to
suggest that a discussion on the broader issues of the role of men and women in
Judaism is not wholly germane to this list and should be carried on in another
forum. I think that the issue of "Kol Isha" remains germane to this list, and I
encourage continued discussion on this topic. But let's not let the discussion
go too far astray from the realm of Judaism and music.
Adrian
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Adrian A. Durlester, M.T.S. - durleste (at) home(dot)com
http://members.home.net/durleste/
Hebrew, Judaica & Music Instructor, Akiva School, Nashville TN
Music Director, Congregation Micah, Nashville, TN http://www.micahnash.org/
List-Owner for hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org; Co-Owner for L-Torah (at)
shamash(dot)org http://uahc.org/hanashir
Editor, Bim Bam (for Torah Aura Productions) http://www.torahaura.com/
Evening Program Chair, CAJE 26, Aug. 5-9, 2001, Colorado State University
Member-at-Large, CAJE Board of Directors
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at)
shamash(dot)org]On Behalf Of shirona
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 2:15 PM
To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org; hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
Subject: [HANASHIR:8244] A Woman's Place (Kol Isha)
This topic really hit a nerve... and I suspect that when there is SO much
"energy" surrounding a topic - it means that it's an "Idea Who's Time Has
Come". Without a doubt - there is a deeper underlying problem that needs to be
examined here.
The way I see it - * * * Total Equality between Men and Women * * *
Jewishly, every way, everywhere. [snip]