[HANASHIR:5957] Re: Tape Recording at Hava Nashira

[Judah Cohen <jcohen...>]

Dear Judy,

        While I had hoped to keep this kind of discussion off the list,
your note is forcing me to bring it up publicly.  As the person who
made the recordings and the videotape you mentioned, I feel it is now my
responsibility to respond to accusations which it seems are at least in
part aimed at me.
        1.  I made the Hava NaShira service recordings (at the request of
the HN organizers),
edited them down, and sent them to OSRUI *in early July, 1999* with
suggestions on how to
transfer them to reproduceable media.  I am sure they were received (I
sent the tapes certified mail, and received written confirmation of
their receipt).  I know nothing of
what happened to the tapes after that.  I want to make it clear on this
score that I did everything I said I would do in the time frame I said I
would do it.
        2.  As to the videotape of the masterclass session:  That was
something I made as a *private* recording for research purposes, having
nothing to do with the Hava NaShira leadership.  You needed to come to *me*
for a copy of that tape.  I must be honest here that I remember making no
promise to copy and distribute the entire videotape to all the participants
in that session.  The agreement at the start of the session was simply (and
clearly) to obtain permission to videotape--*not* to distribute it.  I will
check this tape and see exactly what I said;  however, at the most I recall
saying that I could send you your own segments of the videotape.  Moreover,
if I did make the promise and forgot (an easy thing to do in the context of
the intense atmosphere there), why didn't you remind me after the conference
so I could do something about it?

    As an academic, I want to make it clear on this list that I believe I
have held up my word to those who were at Hava NaShira.  Ethics and the
ability to uphold them are of primary concern to me, especially because they
directly influence the usefulness and success of my research.
    I write this back to the whole list because I was the most visible
person making recordings at last year's Hava NaShira.  I want to make it
clear that to the best of my knowledge, I acted ethically and promptly.
    Judy, your words have the potential to damage me and my reputation
unjustifiably--whether or not you intended to do this.  I ask that you
please be more careful in posting your frustrations to the list.

Judah.

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>From: "Judy Ginsburgh" <jerd (at) centurytel(dot)net>
>To: <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: [HANASHIR:5956] Re: Tape Recording at Hava Nashira
>Date: Sun, May 7, 2000, 10:55 PM
>

> Lisa,
>
> Great idea to have a convention company tape the sessions and sell them like
> at the Biennial, but this is easier said than done.  I actually looked into
> this service for CAJE a few years ago.  These companies are not interested
> in doing small things.  In fact, they have to be guaranteed a mimimum of
> sales or they will not even consider the job.  It was more than CAJE wanted
> to be responsible for and Hava Nashira is much smaller.
>
> It is a shame that many of us followed the rules last year at Hava Nashira
> by not taping when we were told not to.  We were told that a master tape was
> being made and that we would all have the chance to obtain it.  So, we
> listened and waited.......... It has been a year and none of us have tapes
> of much of the beautiful, interesting and new service music.  I know
> recordings were made, but where are they?  This is really not fair and I am
> sure more of us will be punching that record button on our own machines more
> often this year.  I also participated in a sharing session that was video
> taped with the consent of all participants and we were promised a copy of
> the video for our cooperation.  I have never seen that either.  This is not
> very ethical practice.  If help is needed to get these tapes duped, etc.
> then why not ask for help.  There are many on this list who could easily
> make that happen and everyone would be happy and promises would be kept.
>
> Judy :)
>
> Judy Caplan Ginsburgh, award winning singer/music specialist
> (jerd (at) centurytel(dot)net)
> http://www.jewishentertainment.net/judy
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> (CAJE)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <LisaSegal (at) aol(dot)com>
> To: <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 8:09 AM
> Subject: [HANASHIR:5954] Re: Tape Recording at Hava Nashira
>
>
>> Why don't you hire a company like Convention Cassettes tape the sessions
> and
>> services professionally and then sell them at the end like our Bienniels?
>> That certainly makes a whole lot more sense.  Also people like me who are
>> unable to attend because day schools are not yet out can purchase as well
> if
>> you make them available.
>> Just my two cents for whatever it's worth.
>> Lisa Segal
>>
>>
>

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