Re: Yiddish folk song circa 1850's

[Judith Pinnolis <pinnolis...>]

Lionel:
I forgot to tell you that there was a "German-Hebrew Opera Company" by late
1800's, and some sheet music from 1898, but I don't know about the 1850's as
of right now.

Judy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lionel Mrocki" <amrocks (at) optushome(dot)com(dot)au>
To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: Yiddish folk song circa 1850's


> To clarify, I'm not particularly looking for songs from the American Gold
Rush, not that they wouldn't necessarily do, so long as life in America,
specifically, was not mentioned.  Come to think about it, any songs of the
American gold rush era reflecting the hopes of immigrants seeking a new life
(again, so long as American place names weren't mentioned) would possibly do
very well.
>
> Other songs which would suit, would be any folk songs of the day where
yearning, nostalgia, creation of a better life etc were key themes. No
doubt, yiddish-speaking jewry pre and post 1848 would have had something to
sing about with these themes.
>
> Jews also travelled to Australia following the discovery of gold in 1851
and would have brought their songs with them.  This is the material I'm
hoping to work with.  Unfortunately, little archiving is available from
those days in Australia as it was a very young country (the first fleet of
convicts, including jews, from England arrived in 1788, and first fleet of
free settlers in 1793) with
> a tiny (white-invader) population pre gold rush, and few institutions
existed the to record day to day jewish life.
>
> The jewish museum here has some information, and graveyards and the
Ballarat Synagogue yeild some history of those gold-rush days.  Most jewish
immigrants to Australia then were anglo-jews whose music was, presumably,
much the same as the other english-speaking immigrants, but as staunch
yiddishists we're hoping to convey a broader image than that for a
particular project.
>
>
>
> Eliott Kahn wrote:
>
> > At 03:04 AM 3/26/2004 +1100, you wrote:
> > >Does anyone have any suggestions for a yiddish song meeting the
> > >following criteria:
> >
> > Forget about it. The Eastern European Yiddish-speaking emigration began
in the late 19th century. The California Gold Rush of 1849 might have
included German-speaking Jews (Levi Strauss) fleeing the Conservative
European backlash after the revolutions of 1848. Many of them came from
Bavaria because of reinstitution of various prohibitions that had been
rescinded during the Napoleonic era.
> >
> > I'm not so sure they would have been so nostalgic, either, as the west
and southwest were wide open to development and there was far less
antisemitism than even in the eastern cities.
> >
> > Eliott Kahn
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Lionel Mrocki
>
>
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