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Re: 7 Last Words (was) Re: Regarding "Eli, Eli"



>in Aramaic (Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani).

There are those who say that the Aramaic is actually 'lamah zabachtani' (why
have you slaughtered me). But anyhow I thought this was a list about JEWISH
music.
                                EK



----- Original Message -----
From: <BarMusProd (at) aol(dot)com>
To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:51 PM
Subject: 7 Last Words (was) Re: Regarding "Eli, Eli"


> Dear Fred,
>
> In a message dated 10/30/02 1:40:10 PM, xd2fabl (at) us(dot)ibm(dot)com 
> writes:
>
> >And to confuse the subject further, Jesus' famous
> >seven last words from the cross also begin "Eli, Eli" - "Father forgive
> >
> >them for they know not what they do."  (I guess it's 7 words in the
> >original Aramaic.)
>
> The Seven Last Words were not really his seven last words as you are
> referring to them (a quote from Psalm 22:2), and it's the same number of
> words in Hebrew (Eili, Eili lama azavtani) as in Aramaic (Eli, Eli, lema
> sabachthani). The Gospels also disagree as to what were his actual last
> words--Mark and Matthew use the Psalms quote above; Luke just has him cry
> out; and John has him say: "Father, into your hands I commend my spirit."
>
> But the traditional "seven last words" are actually seven sentences:
> 1. Father forgive them for they know not what they do.
> 2. Truly I say unto the, this day shalt Thou be with Me in Paradise.
> 3. Woman, behold Thy son, and Thou, behold Thy mother.
> 4. My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken me.
> 5. I thirst.
> 6. It is finished.
> 7. Father, into Thy hands I commend my spirit.
>
> Best wishes,
> Steve
>
> Steve Barnett
> Composer/Arranger/Producer
> Barnett Music Productions
> BarMusProd (at) aol(dot)com
>
>
>


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