Re: Negiya and the lure of the forbidden

[George Robinson <GRComm...>]

Actually, this could start a whole new thread -- painful and embarrasing
experiences playing brass instruments in sub-zero temperatures. However,
I believe that thread would be better suited to a list for plastic
surgeons.

George (Don't try to thaw your car door locks with your tongue) Robinson


Leopold N Friedman wrote:
> 
> I can't help it!
> Halakhically, it's not at all like negiya, but...
> the motif of alluring and forbidden, but irresistible contact
> in America's cold climates has been aptly described by
> Jean Shepherd and Garrison Keillor, albeit about bare skin
> and frozen metal.
> 
> Maybe we can connect this thread to Bert and Seth's musings
> about Jewish music in out-of-the-way Midwestern and New England
> small towns (like Lake Wobegon, MN). I also want to evoke the memory,
> one which many of us share, of the wintertime community that appeared
> like Brigadoon once a year in frozen Parksville, NY.
> 
> Reminds me if when "I walked ten miles to the kheder in the snow."
> Lee Friedman
> 
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:05:40 -0500 George Robinson
> <GRComm (at) concentric(dot)net> writes:
> > Well, you might have had physical contact -- you just never knew it.
> > (And I hear that spring is a very nice day there.)
> > George (born in Poughkeepsie, where a 16-inch snowfall is a flurry)
> > Robinson
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex Lubet wrote:
> > >
> > > >Off-topic-wise, wouldn't frigid cold--in Buffalo, Minneapolis,
> > > >Fargo, N.D., or (yeccch) Boston--maybe justify--rigidly
> > > >halakhically, mind you--some relaxation of lo negiyah?  I mean,
> > you
> > > >need to keep warm ...
> > > >
> > > Actually, during the winter, which runs here from July to June,
> > we
> > > need to wear so many clothes at all times (especially with fuel
> > costs
> > > these days) that anything that would pass for physical contact is
> > > impossible.
> > >
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