Re: Negiya and the lure of the forbidden

[Leopold N Friedman <apikoyros...>]

I can't help it! 
Halakhically, it's not at all like negiya, but...
the motif of alluring and forbidden, but irresistible contact 
in America's cold climates has been aptly described by 
Jean Shepherd and Garrison Keillor, albeit about bare skin
and frozen metal. 

Maybe we can connect this thread to Bert and Seth's musings 
about Jewish music in out-of-the-way Midwestern and New England
small towns (like Lake Wobegon, MN). I also want to evoke the memory,
one which many of us share, of the wintertime community that appeared 
like Brigadoon once a year in frozen Parksville, NY. 

Reminds me if when "I walked ten miles to the kheder in the snow."
Lee Friedman

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:05:40 -0500 George Robinson
<GRComm (at) concentric(dot)net> writes:
> Well, you might have had physical contact -- you just never knew it.
> (And I hear that spring is a very nice day there.)
> George (born in Poughkeepsie, where a 16-inch snowfall is a flurry)
> Robinson
> 
> 
> 
> Alex Lubet wrote:
> > 
> > >Off-topic-wise, wouldn't frigid cold--in Buffalo, Minneapolis,
> > >Fargo, N.D., or (yeccch) Boston--maybe justify--rigidly
> > >halakhically, mind you--some relaxation of lo negiyah?  I mean, 
> you
> > >need to keep warm ...
> > >
> > Actually, during the winter, which runs here from July to June, 
> we
> > need to wear so many clothes at all times (especially with fuel 
> costs
> > these days) that anything that would pass for physical contact is
> > impossible.
> > 
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