Yiddish,etc./from Trudi the G

[Trudi Goodman <goobietheg...>]

Hi Simon:
Trudi Goodman here.   I hated the earlier sarcasm,because Lori is a GREAT 
PERSON, but I understood it. Thank you for your current comments, however. I 
found them to be very compassionate. As one who was recently "flamed" on 
this site for daring to say that I speak Deitmarish and that people in my 
family spoke it as well...thank you muchly.
Lori is a truly amazing person, and so I understand her desire to "do 
things" correctly. The truth of the matter is that Yiddish is a polyglot 
language and it would be nice, nettish, if YIVO would not be the only source 
that people think that they can go to for information. They do a great job, 
I love these guys, but I'm getting a bit "testy"/noodgie about the 
professionalism of some Yiddishists and their desires to "clean up" and 
sanitize Yiddish, Yinglish and Yiddish cultures in general. As Simone 
Signoret once said...Nostaglia isn't what it used to be.
Love and Knishes, Trudi the G
P.S. I'm with Lori on this one...as a teacher I truly believe that THERE'S 
ALWAYS ROOM FOR EDUCATING PEOPLE. And hey...we all love things Jewish on 
this list or we all wouldn't be hanging out on it!!!!!!!

>From: Klezcorner (at) aol(dot)com
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re:RE: lie-lie-(My reply, kind of long, so you might want to 
>delete)
>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:31:25 EST
>
>
>In a message dated 11/4/99 4:43:43 AM, lsimon (at) SoftHome(dot)net writes:
>
><< Amusing, but mean, Simon.  Part of the function of this list is to 
>educate,
>right?
>  >>
>Dear Lori,
>
>My little message was meant to be mean, but I do believe, part of the
>function of this list is to INFORM, it is up to the individual to use this
>information to educate themselves.
>I was trying to "shine a light" on a subject that many  "Yiddishists" are 
>not
>aware of. There are many list members who may not be fluent in Yiddish let
>alone in the phonetic spelling of Yiddish, including yours truly. However. 
>it
>would be a pity if these members felt that because they are not "proper" in
>the use of Yiddish that they shouldn't use it. Anything that furthers an
>interest in the language is a step in the right direction.
>
>A few years ago, a young lady (not Jewish) came in because she heard a
>Yiddish song played on a radio program that we were involved with. She 
>didn't
>know the name of the tune but eventually we figured it out. She was reading
>the names on the CD out loud, and naturally, mispronouncing every title.
>Unfortunately, there was an individual, who is very well known in the 
>Yiddish
>community as a lecturer, writer, speaker, etc. This "individual" said to 
>the
>young lady, "You know, you are not pronouncing that correctly." The young
>lady informed 'The :Maven" that she didn't speak Yiddish.
>The "Maven" then informed her, in a very condescending manner, that unless
>she learn Yiddish properly, she would never appreciate the music. The very
>sheepishly, put the CD down, thanked me and said she would be back. She 
>never
>did.
>
>The fact that you INFORMED us that YIVO has standardized the 
>transliteration
>of Yiddish, is very important to those people who want to get a formal
>Yiddish education, but many of us speak 'a bit of Yiddish' because our
>parents spoke it at home. However, Yiddish has been transliterated long
>before YIVO  came up with (their) standard.
>
>If you look at the names of some of the people on the list, we have a few
>named "Chaim" or "Haim",  a few named  "Boruch". should they sign as 
>"Khaim",
>and "Borukh"???
>
>Lori, you do a great service to our community with the work you are doing,
>and it would be wonderful if every one could avail themselves of the
>resources out there. So do keep up the good work. As for me, I just plod
>along in my "tzibrokhene Yiddish"(I'll bet I misspelled that! :-)  )
>
>Simon.
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